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Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:09:48 -0500
From: Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com>
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Subject: Re: whois package
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On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 07:22:10AM -0600, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-apps-owner AT cygwin DOT com
>> [mailto:cygwin-apps-owner AT cygwin DOT com]On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:55:50PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>> >Thanks for making those changes. Uploaded to sources - make your
>> >announcement :} (You may wish to wait a little for rcn at least to pick
>> >up the package).
>> >
>> >Also, when sending the announce, send to cygwin-announce AT cygwin DOT com, not
>> >cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, and consider making your Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com.
>>
>> And, don't add [ANNOUNCEMENT] to the beginning of subject.  That gets added
>> automatically when the mail shows up in the cygwin mailing list.
>>
>> I know, I know.  "This really should be in a FAQ".
>
>It is, sorta (well not a FAQ, but still).
>http://cygwin.com/setup.html#submitting:
>
>"
>9. Announce via cygwin-announce AT cygwin DOT com that the new package, is available
>for experimentation. Use a recent cygwin-announce message from one of the core
>maintainers as a template for your announcement.
>
>Once sent, your message will be reviewed by one of the cygwin-announce
>moderators and, once approved, will be automatically forwarded to the cygwin
>mailing list with an [ANNOUNCEMENT] prepended to the subject.
>"

Wow.  I wonder who put that there.  Er, let's see.  I made a mistake.  Oops.
Not supposed to admit that.

What's the cygwin way of handling this?

"No one told me that setup.html was still a valid place to look!"

"It seems to me that it would be nice if this kind of information was
on the MAIN web page."

"I'm sorry but I've been too busy to read documentation -- even the stuff
that I wrote."

"Shouldn't this be a setup option?  I don't see why I have to read mailing
list announcements anyway."

"I just found a link to the cygwin mailing list from 1998 which
indicated that someone thought that web pages were bad.  Ah hah! I got
you!"

"I know about that web page!  Why are you telling me about it?  I'm
trying to say that the information should be somewhere on the cygwin web
site!"

"I think this should be a setup option -- display announcements.  I'm
willing to make the changes to do this but I can't find the sources
anywhere."

"Why don't you have some kind of automated system for sending out these
announcements so that people wouldn't have to remember to use things
like "Subjects"?  It seems to me that it would be a simple matter to
just write a program that grabbed all of the information from the README
and sent it to the APPROPRIATE mailing list.  If this can't be done then
I think cygwin will *never* become successful.  Remember:  Cygwin is now
starting to become popular with users not just programmers."

"I use setup.exe for install announcements!!!  Announced gcc but
gcc says 'command not found: gcc'!!!!  Program still does not announce!!!
Do I need more RAM????   I have 512MB!!!"

"Shouldn't this be a setup option?  I have tried everything but I'm unable
to download the announcments from your board.  Am I missing something?"

cgf