Mailing-List: contact cygwin-apps-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm Sender: cygwin-apps-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin-apps AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Message-ID: <006101c0b979$5e4c1640$562fa4cb@brasd1.vic.optushome.com.au> From: "Travis Howell" Cc: References: <022401c0b8d8$dd089db0$0200a8c0 AT lifelesswks> <3AC441AF DOT 4479D948 AT ece DOT gatech DOT edu> Subject: Re: for interest: cygwin rpm on sourceforge Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:27:28 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I know author of that site, so I thought I would answer for him since he is not on mailing list. > Robert Collins wrote: > > > > I just noticed that they are doing 1500 downloads a week... not bad. I > > take this to mean that the cygwinuser base is growing at greater than > > ~1500/packagecount per week. > > Actually, this is terrible. > > 1. Folks using cygwinrpm are installing cygwin stuff *without* using the > officially approved setup.exe utility. Yet, you can be guaranteed that > they will come to *us* asking for help when it breaks, overwrites the > "official" port of a given package, etc. > > 2. Many of the packages on cygwinrpm are duplicates (or OLD versions) of > packages that are now part of the official cygwin tree. This includes: > perl, zip, unzip, cpio, readline, automake, ncftp, wget. Q: "I have > readline installed. It's broken" A: Is it the official readline, or did > you get it somewhere else?" How often do we ask on the list if someone > is using the official setup.exe-installed version of a standard package > -- or do we just *assume* they're using the official version? It is simply a mater of the site been out of date, usually files get removed when official versions are released. I will try and contact author to get it updated again, he doesn't have as much free time anymore. Check out main page at http://cygwin-rpm.sourceforge.net/ to see. > This whole deal smacks of pure stubborn-ness. "I don't like the > official installation method (even though it was the subject of months > of debate) so I'm gonna muddy the waters with an rpm distro" "Even > though I'm maintaining an rpm of bind for cygwin, I will not contribute > a binary .tar.gz so that users of the official installation method can > benefit..." The bind port is just a recompile/update of one at ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/cygwin/porters/Okhapkin_Serg ey/ports/ Most files on site had tarball available along with rpm version, most of the other files were in the process of having tarballs added too I think.