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From: "Robert Collins" <robert DOT collins AT itdomain DOT com DOT au>
To: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson AT ece DOT gatech DOT edu>
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Subject: Re: for interest: cygwin rpm on sourceforge
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:59:42 +1000
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Wilson" <cwilson AT ece DOT gatech DOT edu>
To: "Robert Collins" <robert DOT collins AT itdomain DOT com DOT au>
Cc: <cygwin-apps AT sources DOT redhat DOT com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: for interest: cygwin rpm on sourceforge


> Robert Collins wrote:
> >
> > I just noticed that they are doing 1500 downloads a week... not bad.
I
> > take this to mean that the cygwinuser base is growing at greater
than
> > ~1500/packagecount per week.
>
> Actually, this is terrible.
>
> 1. Folks using cygwinrpm are installing cygwin stuff *without* using
the
> officially approved setup.exe utility.  Yet, you can be guaranteed
that
> they will come to *us* asking for help when it breaks, overwrites the
> "official" port of a given package, etc.

True. Hopefully a few more developers will come in the mix though.

> 2. Many of the packages on cygwinrpm are duplicates (or OLD versions)
of
> packages that are now part of the official cygwin tree.  This
includes:
> perl, zip, unzip, cpio, readline, automake, ncftp, wget.  Q: "I have
> readline installed.  It's broken" A: Is it the official readline, or
did
> you get it somewhere else?"  How often do we ask on the list if
someone
> is using the official setup.exe-installed version of a standard
package
> -- or do we just *assume* they're using the official version?

This is much worse than 1). I think it's Rue Satoh who's running the
project and he? is on the cygwin mailing list.

> This whole deal smacks of pure stubborn-ness.  "I don't like the
> official installation method (even though it was the subject of months
> of debate) so I'm gonna muddy the waters with an rpm distro"  "Even
> though I'm maintaining an rpm of bind for cygwin, I will not
contribute
> a binary .tar.gz so that users of the official installation method can
> benefit..."
>
> Geez.
>
> --Chuck
>

You are 100% right Chuck, I was only looking at the user base -
awareness of cygwin spreading..

Rob