DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 601K6u5V1694923 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 601K6u5V1694923 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=gb8otphe X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org E8FC74BA2E05 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1767298016; bh=dhbJZ2wVmx8wXgDnUdFHuXP7dUhO2d+hu2XCGJRO5zk=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=gb8otpheIFmEgJ9Yan/6A9kwx/xyMyD0Ntzo3Hg1T3XxCUlAHrXiUQXkd0NKKYQE/ TRAvahcYWYcvcDOVyT9xa+V6reNrB0rkv3mMIbPZtMkRoyo3mUB/h7O6i7TEmHA0yr jUWQIh7WeWUaBTMYUVcMGNFMNOknEaQobD7NlXwQ= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 96A6F4BA2E04 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 96A6F4BA2E04 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1767297996; cv=none; b=CTmV99bc6PeqAceq3BKWgQuN0jIRP6ksFftH262NFUNdXkH3LpsgOoLSLPePHgbdUgDeQEf1aAfahj4l5uy6eK56fdj7cMqM8DT3cWi82szwPhxaY7Ld/fxbgRqJnABIhBftSAEJ393minQ9zq1m4zDyKDDAMG9K74HVLNxiLSo= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1767297996; c=relaxed/simple; bh=jQvwZPeZ+504F8viSF8G1csp7u8cIXD79eHdedmNlK8=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:From:Subject:To:DKIM-Signature; b=AVuZM5u8Im3a2Lx7lkGBqKxU+w3vx1akdIE8pWlFPSEanB9LSsqGCagxmWN0wYIwNyUh+30PqwNCRGgWv0fK70jIOPZ+X1WFuWr80YBbYGUxW2fzSo/s8T0Gmz7LBkhGfGW8tiPMxfeIpA/e2AglPzMBKNykPc9Le94/2+LSNu0= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 96A6F4BA2E04 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:06:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Spurious warning generated by bash Content-Language: en-CA To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <0fb6c806-90d9-4455-b717-2130a274aa60 AT SystematicSW DOT ab DOT ca> <739109891 DOT 3098134 DOT 1767264102829 AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <1794184404 DOT 20260101201748 AT yandex DOT ru> Organization: Systematic Software In-Reply-To: <1794184404.20260101201748@yandex.ru> X-Stat-Signature: 7ccuqs1i5fibqwr7yhen7b7crr7u48bc X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout01 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B65F32002D X-Session-Marker: 427269616E2E496E676C69734053797374656D6174696353572E61622E6361 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX1+2jIjrgdGxRYgpzF+/jhUPZqis+3RY9W4= X-HE-Tag: 1767297994-707828 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX1/CbzaqaiHVW2SQdC+Ev9zEjR+wWbuyZ1iimdtJRwhecB0J4mpiaGqChIvdQWZgMHgkknijVKAMEaKBSvb8yNc16NZQr1YWm6/kGDb0hnYRM81ULje3Kw7Tn0Jov3hY0jIulyUUeMzgfrL35dPuZ+uIB9WD8k/m+toWJgHLdImLa85AO9bQtgZSVdY0VEdByiDWMLUqFI6mljGIPrIGQSrLMiLD45wsD+8koTQX2iNDxPPYaPpsBVx4J+UpNsWul4LWugphBKnAyWERCJYM3yUV88iJk7a+ndLtmMR/Z007QMU4kzPI2VHNdCeP7qA/S1gIfdSwKmVmIKSWtZ/gbH17Zb7LLnoDtYk2eo6etvL2EXjZgXceVl9wzKwDrrpABCDqnzCKc7LwPnywgOw1dXS6gOLdRvy4aq9mH1TBk1ln842MOIfyXY6NBgCQ7teLs1k= X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Brian Inglis via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Brian Inglis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 601K6u5V1694923 On 2026-01-01 10:17, Andrey Repin via Cygwin wrote: >> since when is it acceptable to have UTF-8 format files as shell scripts, >> perl scripts or even python programs? > Since… forever? > UTF-8 is compatible with ASCII on that level. As a Russian user, I suspect you were happier than most when Unicode reduced the number of character sets you had to deal with. >> Same needs to be asked about the person/committee that came up with UTF8. > I suggest the https://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html for an answer. Takes me back to days of dealing with US/UK keyboard and character set differences, DEC ASCII/IBM EBCDIC differences, different EBCDIC device code pages, DEC/Unix/Mac line differences, multiple each DEC/IBM/Unix OSes, passing documents between them, and porting software to convert the documents. Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgh! ;^> Bless Unicode and UTF-8! Happy New Year! -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retrancher but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple