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To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Mark Liam Brown via Cygwin Reply-To: Mark Liam Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 57KJL9Lv1359894 On Mon, Aug 11, 2025 at 2:15 AM Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: > > On 2025-08-10 14:51, Mark Liam Brown via Cygwin wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 5:55 PM Mark Liam Brown wrote: > >> Which ARM64 hardware would be recommended to run, and develop, the > >> ARM64 port of Cygwin? > >> Which ARM64 do you actually use? > > Looks like MS Surface with Qualcomm Snapdragon processors should be available > discounted on Meta Facebook Marketplace if you care to do such things, or you > can buy them new from Surface vendors, laptop or tablet, with tiny screens. > > There appear to be complaints about MS lack of support for native ARM64 > development tools and drivers, and no desktop support, mobile chips only. > > 1. What about HP ARM64 laptops with Snapdragon CPUs, are they useful? 2. Can the Google compute cloud run Windows 11 for ARM? Did anyone try? Mark -- IT Infrastructure Consultant Windows, Linux -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple