DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 574J6BLv1711112 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 574J6BLv1711112 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=aGa0jojn X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 8E7E93857348 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1754334370; bh=VmiCrJaKab6KcT3N8SurnJMl2sA9+QrkEr2Z4qZzjK8=; h=Date:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=aGa0jojn4AX1R/bF5gRJ64YQATYsdx1kO02hRUemfhjrYayKTE6iaHdQA5mvWNBvE LSthw3Sx3oZZ9IVNEu87gxZ9zJZjSE7BoKixB2SlpXZG5GcQL5/LL5kaHwXjsSiW2l 2H6Lz8FgllmS4g1C559aM063YWMQ9J0W2U0dGB2s= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 8416E3858D1E ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 8416E3858D1E ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1754334304; cv=none; b=WstzjOJf9IirCEStUp0/UGJB/HORKNgzo53tSTSgkTcibGealC8IpBZRMSkJVuUEwzX9l4ay3NlGAtQHC4gqSUi9/cPbvJiQamO9RUrMGdUH5waaQX1ty24kw9n7npv6rutFDM7zWdmGc3KVeO8/oVX44hRjEJBvJ0e5mzAaEvc= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1754334304; c=relaxed/simple; bh=eaxiOxrN1FZk0VRcNE+AOqo07NLhrMZfB7CJi4Q1pvw=; h=DKIM-Signature:Date:From:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version; b=Q/nY51WeiwnsgiZ8FW+EChKkgQZ1AWNOlpYNm6Kzj0upPrsMPbZ5SSlGHBYq6hF1g3A564i43ZoeVPkHKj23mwUlDbLunziJ2wRMpSC7ov82sZjrcQ//dk4NjPXnk37cbQKBULU0K4S9Hy+oRBp3YleNdMLYTossYjYVmxWUedU= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 8416E3858D1E X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2025 21:51:03 +0300 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v9.3.4) Professional Message-ID: <1489952594.20250804215103@yandex.ru> To: "Old, Oliver" , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Incorrect command line handling when launching Cygwin program from Windows In-Reply-To: References: <87264da9-cc87-4a63-89cb-e30fc6c1126b AT emrich-ebersheim DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Andrey Repin via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Andrey Repin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Greetings, Old, Oliver! >> Why don't you use the cygwin cmake? > We want to use VS Code to work with the project. It doesn't like > Cygwin's CMake. It would also interfere with the clangd language server > since that reads from CMake's compile_commands.json which contains the > command line as it would be used within the shell. Then do not mix environments. I.e. use windows native tools with VS Code, and Cygwin with automation scripts. > I know the next question: Why are you not using a MinGW toolchain if all > you do is cross-compile for a different target anyways? > Sorry for the long paragraph. TL;DR: Management. > I didn't want to, but was forced to because, this is approximately the > reasoning I was given, "we can't prove that the Cygwin GCC toolchain and > the MinGW toolchain will produce the same code and we can't tolerate any > differences between our currently 'maintained' Cygwin toolchain and the > 'experimental and untested' MinGW toolchain". Indeed, for some reason, > the layout of the binary contents, and consequently the addresses > referencing them, differ. I'm guessing it's because of path ordering > within archives or something like that. The generated instructions, > unsurprisingly, are the same, at least for the functions I've diffed. > Nothing I said could sway my manager, so I spent a week working on this, > first having to track down a bug that livelocked GCC (it was the "Ninja > 0-byte pipe" bug, that was fixed in Cygwin 3.6.1, but our checked in > version was of course 3.6.0), then having to figure out why the command > line is interpreted weirdly and working around that (custom launcher + > undocumented CMake feature). I think I've answered the question already. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Monday, August 4, 2025 21:49:29 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple