DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 56UB40lD1773305 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 56UB40lD1773305 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=Epz4e+B9 X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org E542D3858C50 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1753873439; bh=3wm7R8DmuwVYdChTk07sSw3Sm3+ot5POnab3CJ+MTyk=; h=Date:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=Epz4e+B9C1lHdwnWuT1JSxHvYLmh/rqA4fUByWfbZ3slVkZX8nWTg6OSQMGHXGsKd 4NbUxncz27GjhWXhbSqPDLhNsaTJFU5NZXa8MmdJ+Bpe1rAH+I6gTO2fgdVlh4MhIE k06sZA+nn42mcAsh5SeCgW13vLolmvWVv604JIA8= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org AB7C73858C31 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 13:03:19 +0200 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: new c++ new/delete overloads need wrapping? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <81535510-8360-1c72-442a-0b630a6d937f AT jdrake DOT com> <80497791-d323-4204-66ef-4b1a8ff45aa9 AT jdrake DOT com> <2786ab8c-11a7-b1e4-59a0-02f567b3f368 AT jdrake DOT com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2786ab8c-11a7-b1e4-59a0-02f567b3f368@jdrake.com> X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Corinna Vinschen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On Jul 29 14:34, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2025, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2025, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote: > > > > > On Jul 28 12:57, Jeremy Drake via Cygwin wrote: > > > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote: > > > > > Unless there's some automatism referencing the __wrap_X functions even > > > > > if the --wrap option isn't present, I don't see this incompatibility as > > > > > much of a problem. We're trying to maintain backward compat, but that > > > > > doesn't mean an executable created under and for a newer Cygwin DLL > > > > > has to run under an older DLL. > > > > > > > > OK, then the patch adds support for wrapping these functions ends up in a > > > > stable Cygwin release, then GCC is updated to add additional --wrap > > > > parameters for them, and that GCC and binaries it produces will no longer > > > > be compatible with older Cygwin DLLs. > > > > > > *iff* the --wrap option is used with functions not provided by older > > > DLLs, right? Not for some reason generally incompatible, I hope... > > > > Correct. However, I expect that to be very common for C++ binaries, > > because it seems like the C++14 sized delete is now used by default for > > ordinary (non-array) delete. > > Oh, and you know what else uses these symbols... libstdc++-6.dll. > And the larger cygwin_cxx_malloc struct will mean that binaries that try > to fill it out will need a newer DLL version with the larger struct > (libstdc++-6.dll being notable there as it provides the implementations > generally). Yeah, so we can only do this after we updated Cygwin. Maybe we only want that with 3.7, it sounds like a major version kind of breakage. Corinna -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple