DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 531ALUN82204744 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 531ALUN82204744 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=og11NY22 X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org CC045383FDFF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1743502888; bh=7LCwyVvLV7RE6W88jsn6kFy8iaWfVg5hut1hko+z68I=; h=Date:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=og11NY22pqgFys+IyD2rQNixFCtXnVOirx8m+mhfLPCpwKiw+pacYCh50uAsKN5RU CsAp7flMGCPOfzTPAVyNF81zfbn+8Gu2FQYFAj9Ex3LPqAU2zuz2JfGKXI43fnYe/m jeem4do9ifd3Q7VGbCdy8Z1vTWYvxU6+6g+NzvxA= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org C6D063840C13 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org C6D063840C13 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1743502805; cv=none; b=IMkDkYUSa+CX/4csW4vmmIfe8H0pyikoLI9Fn9peBDejw80OD90w+j5g4dj7viIShuhajcUl7IGhN3SJBkxPlWQuXa1HKDVS8GTEYhJShHKngJg7ZwnHK/XLZxQGs43CEAa+mkNJ6+MHiLN96VzDDre47k2gbGXivQvJZIDCEAY= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1743502805; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ABrPiiifQ0fr5tWwOCq6wsi8J58CsXGXUGkZymoX4kE=; h=DKIM-Signature:Date:From:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version; b=PE7T53TnVSysMS6KDsmRwjMbMz986OeIrzLHr6wnWLY1DuXQ0qmZpcu+ZTHPMknyibAKVyPJOFxQ+twmM0U3r9HHXVDMAEIXdyyusC9Y9r/jxkhGigkW0B2fQFSbfRG0YxJAq0wzMXX+8Ai2DTQN0CnoCZkO0Xv4Hoeqj0Lslo0= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org C6D063840C13 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 13:07:09 +0300 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v9.3.4) Professional Message-ID: <1448648585.20250401130709@yandex.ru> To: Paul Eggert , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: symbolic link curiousity in 3.6.0 In-Reply-To: <8082949c-968d-44ed-b8c7-88bb239c3653@cs.ucla.edu> References: <11037686 DOT 3WhfQktd6Z AT nimes> <91c9d441-36e3-4dd5-b2ca-3cfd498d2260 AT draigBrady DOT com> <1c0fb53a-2a6d-4d9d-8dbe-d70cc9296d5d AT draigBrady DOT com> <37f0f8b7-4251-4acd-b448-2f0d7c30a988 AT cs DOT ucla DOT edu> <675dac19-3c71-436f-93ce-e8f73b65b16c AT cs DOT ucla DOT edu> <8082949c-968d-44ed-b8c7-88bb239c3653 AT cs DOT ucla DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Andrey Repin via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Andrey Repin Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Greetings, Paul Eggert! > On 3/31/25 12:26, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> ls(1) always potentially shows a past state anyway. > Sure, but traditionally (and I'm talking about 7th edition Unix) a single > output line of 'ls' corresponded to a state obtained atomically from the > file system. I realize we can't always do that nowadays but the further we > depart from it, the worse 'ls' users will be. The link dereferencing is a courtesy of LS, and in no way it is guaranteed to be stable in a long run. As Corinna pointed out, even the state LS is displayed could be stale by the time it reached the user's eyes. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Tuesday, April 1, 2025 13:05:20 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple