DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 delorie.com 519B3YAL3718941 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: delorie.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 delorie.com 519B3YAL3718941 Authentication-Results: delorie.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key, unprotected) header.d=cygwin.com header.i=@cygwin.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=default header.b=LGlWyz/I X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org A47A53858023 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1739099010; bh=2y8MxVEZt8hsjPkmTlCas16UPzTN1tUqdXWO0V5kSyw=; h=Date:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To: From; b=LGlWyz/IyuPzFsE/uL9ogpm25nW8E/hXPMhQEwpU6fQB2VcJpIVvjHAuKqX7VXnFZ 2k8HAhbEASG85UEFFMdMXrZoFnDAVJVAhRnrJFJ+MtXp6lKZmdIMgwAia1SsUEBCSm fXl6zw5AwZFwXzpoC0AhE32ao7cEtAzBIdplgHFg= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 556ED3858C62 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 556ED3858C62 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1739098941; cv=none; b=sLCms4klSJVczCP1/jMC+B/Acxkl0wmPp2JZ0SHC+rJFf3s54y+R5HzKcOeDDMYwOAPF7iFVYm7q//RFuqBBe5uSXplnVN12MMDh4KLqx1A+9UZTPnsnDjdQ7yKrUZk31FZkzIRsT8mjglCakYpgAe1g0r+3nost2notMbAXHlo= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1739098941; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ykgqX+Hyb0N81QHYPslfF/GDaPK4N+/zf6rzNA9OtKw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=so30Kn/nWhFSZmlsLn6xWYZZH2NysAhU9fb+5IUufo8/bLmWWplMPsXDnDoTOmJNoxqGF16WggKOU7/Gm2eDnav6CnELLCURMHDgYL99kYmBysqpmoy3IPidpujafvVmXXERAUJfRao4+b9unajT11n2WqV3TruZauWBoAG9agU= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 556ED3858C62 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 11:02:19 +0000 To: ASSI via Cygwin Subject: Re: Request to package perl module installer, App::cpanminus Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: ASSI via Cygwin References: <87tt942rme DOT fsf AT Gerda DOT invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87tt942rme.fsf@Gerda.invalid> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20240425 X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Dr Bean via Cygwin Reply-To: Dr Bean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces~archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On Sat, 08 Feb 2025, ASSI via Cygwin wrote: > Dr Bean via Cygwin writes: > > ASSI, what about adding to the long list of packages you maintain > > another one, App::cpanminus, providing the commandline tool, 'cpanm', a > > popular alternative to the venerable CPAN, and the installer of choice > > of perl app developers? > Last I looked (which has been several years ago) it had some problems > that I don't really remember the details of anymore and that probably > have been fixed in the meantime or fixed themselves by Cygwin having > more up-to-date Perl versions. The problems with the CPAN meta DB > mirrors are likely solved as well, especially since the fallback is > MetaCPAN these days. However I've switched to using the MetaCPAN API > directly for almost anything and that solved all CPAN slowness I've > experienced before that prompted my use of cpanm to work around it. That's useful, describing the work you did with cpanm. > > https://metacpan.org/pod/App::cpanminus > > https://github.com/miyagawa/cpanminus > > I am motivated to ask this by the efforts of the developer of > > App::perlbrew, a/the perl environment manager to extend support for > > cygwin, > > https://metacpan.org/pod/App::perlbrew > > https://github.com/gugod/App-perlbrew/pull/838#issuecomment-2631585142 > As a sidenote, you were not using the current Perl for whatever reason. Oops, I have perl 5, version 36, subversion 3 (v5.36.3), with 'Keep' in the Full view Select Packages screen. I didn't see it in the Pending view, so thought I had the current perl. I must have downgraded at some point. Probably because of a CPAN module incompatibility? > > which would be helped if there were a cpanm package. > > Well, cpanm is a standalone script with bundled dependencies, so it's an > anathema to system packaging as it will skip any adaptations for Cygwin > that the system packages might have but not the fatpacked ones. Also it > uses local::lib, which comes with added configuration complexity that > can only be handled properly by whoever uses it, again not something I > want to get in the midst of. I didn't think about the problems packaging it that any maintainer who takes it on in the future would face. Perl on cygwin is a trouble-free experience using the system packages. I try not to install from CPAN, preferring a system package if it is available. I don't use cpanm, perlbrew or local::lib myself. When installing CPAN modules from the metacpan.org site, I do it with old-school cpan. > So, to summarize: App::cpanminus builds out of the box and passes its > own tests, but just like local::lib I don't want to distribute it as a > system package and /usr/local/ is left for whoever is in charge of that > system, not Cygwin upstream. I think that that's the right decision, a responsible one on your part. In view of my own old-school system-package-only conservatism, I'm not convinced I'm the right person to package cpanm either. But if we can't get Soren to package it, I guess I should think about doing it. > Here's the cygport file to produce a > system package if you want to play with that: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > # -*- mode: sh; sh-shell: bash -*- > BUILD_REQUIRES+=" libcrypt-devel" # perl.h > NAME="perl-App-cpanminus" > VERSION="1.7048" > RELEASE="1" > CPAN_AUTHOR="MIYAGAWA" > HOMEPAGE="https://metacpan.org/release/MIYAGAWA/App-cpanminus-1.7048" > LICENSE="Artistic-1.0-Perl OR GPL-1.0-or-later" > DESCRIPTION="Perl distribution App-cpanminus, providing Perl modules: > App::cpanminus. > > Get, unpack, build and install modules from CPAN." > > [ "${CYGPORT_RPM_DIR:-no}" == "no" ] && [ -s "${PN}.src.patch" ] && PATCH_URI+=" ${PN}.src.patch" > ARCH=noarch > DIFF_EXCLUDES="MYMETA.*" > > export PERL_NO_VENDOR_DEPS=1 > inherit perl > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Thanks for the cygport file. That will help Soren or me get started. But we will probably need help uploading to the cygwin package repos. -- Greg "Dr Bean" Matheson Intention and action, night and http://drbean.sdf.org day. Action and intention, drbean AT freeshell DOT org long day's journey into night. > > > Regards, > Achim. > -- > +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ > > Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Blofeld: > http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds > > -- > Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple