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On 09/01/2025 08.31, Andrey Repin wrote:
> The apparent issue you are missing is that you are calling native app from
> Cygwin environment.
> Each have its own rules, and to have it working with minimal issues, you'd
> need to satisfy both sides.
> In specific case, PATH is a special environment variable for both sides, and
> you have to correctly translate it from one side to the other.

What do you mean?
I'm perfectly aware that PATH is special, and why it is, I also wrote it 
in the first mail.

I questioned the statement that the conversion is expected _because_ 
`env` expects POSIX semantics and parsed my command according to that.
Since POSIX says nothing about the interaction of env and PATH, and 
conversions are not described by the standard (as you confirmed), the 
behavior is expected because of what cygwin does, not because of POSIX. 
(and yes, I knew cygwin does the conversion from cygwin PATH to Windows 
PATH, so that was expected, I did not expect it to break a Windows PATH 
and to depend on the current drive)

The main question of this thread was:

"I noticed that PATH is converted, and cannot find a switch do disable 
this conversion. Is it possible to define an environment and use it as 
is, without having some implicit conversions?"

I mean, there are other variables that have special meanings; all those 
that define a path.
(Examples would be HOME, XDG_CACHE_HOME, XDG_DATA_HOME, ...)

The answer seems to be no (which was what I feared).

Thus special casing for some environment variables is necessary as there 
is no such switch.
I saw PATH as particularly problematic because I was not aware of the 
option --path of cygpath.

> I provided a wrapper script I use myself, you could add any massaging to it
> that you feel necessary. Like `unset TERM` or PATH modifications.

Attachment seems to be missing, but I think unsetting environment 
variables one by one, changing existing, and adding the missing, is too 
error-prone.
Defining a "clean" environment once seems to have less chances to have 
some errors.

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