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To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Cedric Blancher via Cygwin Reply-To: Cedric Blancher Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 494F6Tgt1276775 On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 19:11, Brian Inglis via Cygwin wrote: > > On 2024-10-01 05:25, Mark Liam Brown via Cygwin wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:20 PM Jeremy Drake wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Mark Liam Brown via Cygwin wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 12:49 PM Mark Liam Brown > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Greetings! > >>>> > >>>> Are there Cygwin 3.6 x86/32bit builds? > >>>> We're on Windows 10/ARM64, and as Cygwin does not support ARM64 yet > >>>> the only other option is to use the x86 (32bit) emulation to run > >>>> Cygwin 3.6 32bit. Windows 11 also has x86-64 emulation, but we are > >>>> stuck with Windows 10. > >>> > >>> Anyone? We've hit the problem again that we would need Cygwin 3.5 > >>> 32bit, as Cygwin 3.3 is bit outdated. > >>> Mark > >> > >> There can be no such build, support code for 32bit was ripped out before > >> Cygwin 3.4 was released. > > > > WHY?! WHY?! ;-((((((((((( > > You know how many Windows 32bit machines are out there? > > As far as anyone can tell externally << 1%. I'd wholeheartedly object to that statistics. In Paris alone we have the Programming Education CD in almost every school, which is for the Windows 8+Windows 10 32bit machines to install a Cygwin-based app to teach pupils programming in Pascal and C. That are around 11000 installations alone, and scaled up to France a lot more. Last edition was made in 2022, with 14000 CDs (one CD --> multiple installations) shipped until mid-2024. Bummer is, most of these school PCs are 32bit only, and they are not being replaced before 2028-2032, but the programming environment needs to be updated or replaced before 2025. So YES, there is a market for 32bit Cygwin!! Ced -- Cedric Blancher [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CedricBlancher/] Institute Pasteur -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple