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Message-ID: <brkwcfiu2vi3itlx6h7ntthcyaxcs7jroajwx7vf3tpi4b75ob@6qbtxd5pky2w> Mail-Followup-To: Eliot Moss via Cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> References: <CAK8RtFqE_4GY=qZYz3rVKJP2bfn8GNGugdojQuaik8yeEwZJkA AT mail DOT gmail DOT com> <a955c5b1-3a70-5bde-2824-9f6f70cdfacf AT cs DOT umass DOT edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <a955c5b1-3a70-5bde-2824-9f6f70cdfacf@cs.umass.edu> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20230407 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports <cygwin.cygwin.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://cygwin.com/mailman/options/cygwin>, <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/> List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://cygwin.com/mailman/listinfo/cygwin>, <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=subscribe> From: Dr Bean via Cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> Reply-To: Dr Bean <drbean AT freeshell DOT org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" <cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024, Eliot Moss via Cygwin wrote: > On 6/19/2024 2:06 PM, Jens Staal via Cygwin wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I recently read the Wikipedia article on alternative shells in Windows. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_alternative_shells_for_Windows > > > > And it got me wondering: can you start a DE or WM running under Cygwin/X as > > an alternative Windows shell? > > If WM mean window manager, then yes. I use bash as my shell all the time. > Not sure what you mean by DE ... Probably Desktop Environment, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment Following https://darrengoossens.wordpress.com/2018/10/04/simple-way-to-launch-cygwin-programs-on-windows-start-up/ I was happy to find I could bypass the desktop and open mintty windows at start up with a batch script, C:\cygwin64\bin\run.exe -p bin --quote /usr/bin/bash -l -c "cd; exec /usr/bin/mintty bash -i -c \"tt Mo qb dot mastodon Pr Po E\"" where 'tt' is my bash function opening minty bash windows, and its arguments are other bash functions starting 'screen' sessions. With so may invocations of bash and mintty, am I going round in circles to avoid the desktop this way? > Still, CMD and PowerShell have their uses sometimes, and WSL is also useful > in addition to Cygwin and virtual machines such as Hyper-V or VirtualBox. > > Best - Eliot Moss > > > -- > Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple -- Greg "Dr Bean" Matheson Teaching: brain surgery http://drbean.sdf.org with a blunt instrument drbean AT freeshell DOT org --Dr Bean -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple