X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 015A53857C4F DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1712689027; bh=vll9sY7nPk64KwxhRL3cAsB80kIA/4JZs7lK8GMqowI=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:To:Cc:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From:Reply-To:From; b=xuQSJYEpCpIjzP62PdCODeNfTQoM7sCKAuiHoWM7ZfqqM+sAulkaIbvymrsJ06gif lsisDgc8zqxIf4or32mpfJNjuscX4G6vBAA9qDl6NaZ0mOOhylcevzLS7az6jC6n2o POCOfi+oT9jES8u4W+O2CdrFym4D3Trd3m6FjxwE= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 42F593858D39 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 42F593858D39 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1712688977; cv=none; b=JcyVpv71ZCWTPuiEpcHZiaXInJeORDncxi/toG+JzDVhuwKw8P3f1d6jP/C02hoBTIKBkbTXu9x1buxu+nUhQ+sOu70RfbQPmkmMoMQz5ob2fMEGbchINWwP/+p3g5g/RPoQoUKGzOIYzZbJQG+i6X/1GwXHnEfynypEybgH6tY= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1712688977; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Klb1OmAJo60vfPVaKKxiMVI/qb69d4hT4ryhA1wCYYY=; h=DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=vHXGj2nm+WDT0FTADpuP9CAJmf7xUP2nnkOxuYI/4823YDrBWNiCf97qNnmHvDIG488st+DwF80z/zSVPygpYuPFQ57uYKkrEX03Ftto0PjnxonEU/aelGCi3J1edKZeIpn0dwjYb4HVvYi15pZX6ZyRWLEf289yZa/TYD7FiXo= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1712688974; x=1713293774; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Klb1OmAJo60vfPVaKKxiMVI/qb69d4hT4ryhA1wCYYY=; b=H1VMG0nDD58yT9j38nYy9pnP+9FrKuT44YLcmLbgx8x6EerZm5+pNNfkRFveItsP4j qsI2BPG51ase+1HLOLfIq6Ptocw+LA10fhPXq9L0mqUnCTxPfLWZ6C29vcZpriuLao6q 18Ci0/ExJNmJBgEMkvXN3VIs0LiIr5MiDTo2BlB1ApnaLByaYW8vxNJnTRH5ZsgCdXk6 ZBfmb0imxAmYhnZxOQc1k9unftV31OWk2MmyAhiaNJPJHla8fwsZMTkWcVjCta67HVGr S8XQvGv20/nFZj7yMIV761CYvg1g35oFynlKVL7FV2uH+0+qopK38LrbLKiWLLFfbFvX TGMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyjoYA7HhY+7OizW75R/qRWlscc7+a2/XhmkUiPGiQiXn2sdXy6 TrCimkyXbDI/XLT0fHHto+vWiPj6wIMm+28Kk304EynAFfuPbYagHh91mYqcIwdZ4JJWn9Q6XOV tDOZIywW3c/3qijKbEcxtdlQesuCRAA+dFiQX7g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGa8/c/bm0q53TiF1tPw9GkYHK9UQkaw3jL4D4FmMEFIuIHaQ+dX8aIWqg7XgdIeWwrKJKpJFPWYOxk58pEeQg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:c205:b0:2a2:a889:c2d8 with SMTP id e5-20020a17090ac20500b002a2a889c2d8mr504141pjt.32.1712688973994; Tue, 09 Apr 2024 11:56:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 20:56:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Cygwin a bit slow To: Adam Dinwoodie Cc: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: J M via Cygwin Reply-To: J M Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 439Iv9d8609012 Hi Adam, It would be nice to contribute, although my knowledge is not high, I could review problems and try things. There are two things that are difficult for me. One is to search the Cygwin Archives, you could have a way to search for them directly on the Cygwin website. And another is to have powerful tools to look for problems and a FAQ where they can explain their use in detail (windows and linux tools). I think it's not all problems in Cygwin, many times they are conflicts with other software (antivirus is one). Specifically for this problem, I have investigated the problem and can be related to pipes and antivirus. Specifically while true do echo ABC | grep AAA done It makes the cpu of that antivirus go up. I have seen that the pipes make use of \??\pipe routes which I have seen at https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html I have it configured to exclude c:\cygwin64 and perhaps those paths of those pipes are having effects in that other software. By now this... Regards El lun., 8 abr. 2024 21:48, Adam Dinwoodie escribió: > On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 at 16:19, J M via Cygwin wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm seeing that Cygwin is a bit slow, directly and after comparing to > > simple ubuntu virtual machines by example. > > > > Specifically: > > > > - Copy and paste texts in vim, I see clearly the slow in paste. > > - Using sed and/or grep that count approx. between 6x and 8x respect to > > virtual machine simple ubuntu. > > - In general multiple bash commands are slower. > > > > Can you analyze this? > > > > I'm use the last updated Windows 11 and a fresh Cygwin. > > This is expected. Cygwin runs as a compatibility layer between Windows > and the POSIX applications, and that compatibility layer has > significant performance overheads. Running in a virtual machine – > including WSL – has far fewer of those overheads, at the expense of > requiring a complete separate operating system, all the virtualisation > infrastructure, and poorer access to the Windows OS. > > There is clearly a trade-off here, and for a lot of folk who would > have used Cygwin in the past, WSL is going to be a better choice: > those disadvantages are much less relevant than they were five or ten > years ago. Obviously, if you have ideas for how to improve Cygwin > performance, the project is always looking for volunteers; there's > more information at https://cygwin.com/contrib.html. > > HTH > > Adam > -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple