X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 200D33858425 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1710861579; bh=BwKh0L5RQ99NF3/c4g08pBFXiq2RcapIUIRRLLASauA=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To: From; b=QVluzALaWG/7ZaIczEtmAvMKXSW6nVHGjIQO01BrGqetZbaTHZBnoUdo6w2MatqB+ 5439r4/SJf+seP9CtAeH5eJrH4SKTsKhClfERD2sJUokoJ057hU707mk5thHHADL3Q GYRTBDMGsxnsMMrl0MH4qqRJc1PCthX0XjVnsxMI= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 6FEF5385842B ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 6FEF5385842B ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1710861521; cv=none; b=h+O7niF4/u3Jh+FL/4WIVa8bWYC6UF805dKr6d021C311prWdb8G0Ya32v3cQVLIsOUFazc6/fvqiF2zHWJa1NVxEmqFl96TDem6y1xlHOPGZbnlwheIi0/vaVcQHauO6OHEFAKF7AKHUnXz6SXno+KjwcaN2uCEU3WqxaZW+tg= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1710861521; c=relaxed/simple; bh=yq3326zL3W0qwRqy27oUBOLhoZ2mdxkwb13Qdsx9QYY=; h=DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To; b=KdZur333DuZhY3HgOXL6QGzDosrncrPt+lnmxWtXvkA52nCT4aS5P4uNw7s4rmAX6WyjsqPXxsLmCr8V4iBmevLGM6ENcl4J3+QRcdEtwiSbmK8Ac/zaWrl1yl7aftXh60IY5nkzoiW2tqtsbmgK1PPBRadhgyXEioM+bdBc3Dg= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org X-UI-Sender-Class: f2cb72be-343f-493d-8ec3-b1efb8d6185a X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxW189PWcim8o28IxllCQQPpUCKXjUM5b8yab549qjZqyXewMG9 rmQrv2u6nbziFV9pnKGCPPh5URtYZ1nqKl2y44nPdhwy6z0KJXU0XbMedODsR0xtPO7Np36Wap+ 8l+mwc12Guec0FPrUkfFPlyPhD/M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGsS6qeBr/RSat8A1vjpl0uLzwtYUxdRDIKZoPAIWEN22FG8ncfIWUBNah/SQlWm9T/K1Rx9PNuBNFCGqhQQUA= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9f07:0:b0:2d4:76d6:e9c9 with SMTP id u7-20020a2e9f07000000b002d476d6e9c9mr8698438ljk.52.1710861516614; Tue, 19 Mar 2024 08:18:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 09:18:09 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: GetVersionEx() depreciated, what should be used instead for Windows 7/8/10? To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YEyg9vOqBelfEG/UyytUsL3uuVmvfexq9RygMOm33IlFWMfrdn/ mMLINxS1MF5JS0ViNNrt7YhGdABsSVAV1K8ZH5gD7Onwfo5fnsWSwwccnrj2Tu3Dw5ey9c9 KbNe4ttzZ08pNPbSsyxpcLB14NTjHbrJDrcQed1C408IsycQYFrlBuD+D7nF/H1WHh0i1/K HB67GPjJxJM81tvlpxmXg== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:7G6fktbulU4=;atDrGL1sRSZsrJzX9sy+aRKSTvT J9XmaANNqBTKt1iGV9aZpewmEzIUuAZduwEC8XRHdtF9FFsby/isDAbuKE4mmYdrlaiHC+i8k 687/hjdoSWEwZLl5kzhKmf14b5f5B7QhjwzUeIv3ggzGAmpP0M0g4XYI84eCl9t8LoC4P0Hnw tF5Y3VctBHIy5ANM7c1CevGfkym5EOEUWRhmcOWuFjEKWPdDOt22DXWbyu+mDXUUqHRAQ5wH8 TrWA0D91Ujp2NNSibQU4oaPdCZf5lmT5Wc746mASVzZa/nUQY5lE7psZw+gkAQiOp2O30puVF IeAoE1jTj/xKB3V9fkqCkUiIawraZBQXGDYhvWetKiC8I90eq58i98C7M1+AW66JW/4EgjVqd Tujjo8ULERG04JPoMwYIeKYre7iq4FUIXJgf5LnDRe+9zDeE4k04olnojGvN8XD/GMQVOBZQd BltsllIQH/XZbfTgxI7qS822Ri73EojaH5NCHPhxUrwglDNyvyvRVNIYNLueo4plcHRBqWD2l oQM7WO/zVabZrdS/WpWowbDpsZUEbiS7WhJvqkeshCT2Q0t/4g158jcwyu4lyxX8V6JnVJkS3 hjzhnBzI4dET62mqfIdWW7aHMK8SYSfg2w1WFv4InWuVq0X23JWAP/44bXz0fSNzlUOzMeUGW SWyF04ML2b7RV+9ycYvNF0WsgGtL1EkPYi9LqytuqlV3075os11Ppk5Pf4ZpcXsSrVPP18NgY fQmV+pfV/gigwRz8cDDmxj21jcxC8+RigEyl3bi5NXZJ44+ygzgN5Ppdi/NuwoQB0iYU8u26O JHeMnNh4VcpuXXRsQIMt03GoUzKlwaotBJOSaP8EWBJKY= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Bill Stewart via Cygwin Reply-To: Bill Stewart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 42JFJdfb783711 On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:01 AM Richard Campbell wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Bill Stewart via Cygwin > wrote: > > > Can you please clarify the circumstances under which the RtlGetVersion > > function "may not return the correct values"? > > "Originally, using RtlGetVersion instead of GetVersionEx was supposed to > fix the fact that GetVersionInfo returns the wrong kernel version if the > executable has been built with an old manifest (or none at all), starting > with Windows 8.1. Either this never really worked as desired and our > testing was flawed, or this has been changed again with Windows 10, so > that RtlGetVersion does the kernel faking twist as well. Since we're > only reading the value in the first process in a process tree. the entire > process tree is running with a wrong OS version information in that case. > > Fortunately, the (undocumented) RtlGetNtVersionNumbers function is not > affected by this nonsense, so we simply override the OS version info > fields with the correct values now." > > https://cygwin.com/git/?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=commitdiff;h=48511f3d3847c35352d09cded56e25f0c1b22bc9 > Interesting. I have not yet been able to find a scenario where the RtlGetVersion function gets "manifested" like GetVersionEx. I wrote a small Win32 console utility for displaying and testing OS information (requires Windows Vista/Server 2008 or later): https://github.com/Bill-Stewart/osinfo It uses RtlGetVersion, and this function works correctly for me in all current Windows versions (Windows 10, Server 2016, Windows 11, Server 2019, Server 2022, etc.). I'm not sure of the exact scenario that led to the "RtlGetVersion is subject to manifesting" conclusion, but I can't reproduce it. I would be interested to know what results the osinfo.exe tool reports in these scenarios. Regards, Bill -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple