X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 9F3A63858419 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1700166644; bh=CxNhjDQ0M+/xKCU8pcCizIcYhBHMyhpG4gjdBXQz6F0=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:Cc: From; b=oGk8VnSkneL0KgxE9qltbMINGP/odfQ4nm5UYECEwTpftuMHhHwZ2eqwryveteCav 6t5fHCCdx+tcCyz3F+1T/E5cZuQXPMXW/gdZ8H+s3Rbsbr4w1DjVwv5Efr8h7u3ZLn KmP3wPSjd96f2kUU6lQNd5J0jxxWCkaXgGwcTz7o= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org ADA703858D32 ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org ADA703858D32 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1700166630; cv=none; b=ZehtnUi94pKx3s5hEklxSMEPdpwIPHsAohDC+tcOUQFsUg9BDDJ/ruJUOJDrxjtcXq6rGv2eYAbogLgsxlZ8wl10h8h15xuFyPJd8RlcCoEiPELCY5i8aLsZy+T72wInd4XR/jgBj6k0ZraTtQUiNeaLtoqeepKxHDNNXNgKPBo= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1700166630; c=relaxed/simple; bh=4ntkQ4s6TeY+YiLjrSRVFsYJVWcjmdgIDuPmbYk7OMU=; h=DKIM-Signature:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:From; b=tPzHKl7s0ClPIsRg1CvFJAYYOVlf+NzENKGv/4GrZtXUkbZwuzEQfzP/EdepwiXPob3Ge0TVO+362iVT3f5spqokSqTnhzQutCXgd2lmKwGCaGbpXAf9P186YC0pvyDT5O5WP/DRawrajfcx50cYdlokJaBaGyccVEd1rLkczHw= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=CZQbWZnl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=65567be3 a=DxHlV3/gbUaP7LOF0QAmaA==:117 a=DxHlV3/gbUaP7LOF0QAmaA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=FfVa6YyVAAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=uuUOWmWZWj-B1yBV1rMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=YA-VbQCo1SUA:10 a=pwUoXiQdmvIA:10 a=Lz48L_9qCwoA:10 a=UiCPdkfYahhcG6y9nT3T:22 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 Message-ID: <6752f3b0-0fbf-4709-976c-12030285e0bb@Shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:30:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Cygwin tool to differ junctions from soft links? Content-Language: en-CA To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <48998319 DOT 20231116114707 AT yandex DOT ru> <1439487749 DOT 2493319 DOT 1700160923985 AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> Organization: Inglis In-Reply-To: <1439487749.2493319.1700160923985@mail.yahoo.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfFzeYJlE/Aen172rIiNANAfJixsdZZs/pix6SR44GD3yF8O6ux5vITm8nA3NnN40jf/RIOu0F3gmpehOqcVgO1CIIZZU066Q2WG+cVwaRUeJXhxMBXK1 yZjRRnX8TBkZl0VpKnyQ/FZo1ENF5mxGNDxh0rhQMI0/s9FF16G6iH+UHFwQANmh4HIyIP3dhwnM0w== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Brian Inglis via Cygwin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Brian Inglis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 3AGKUjfB018513 On 2023-11-16 11:55, matthew patton via Cygwin wrote: > On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 03:50:24 AM EST, Andrey Repin wrote: >>> Does Cygwin have a command line tool (Scriptable!) which can be used to >>> differ between soft links and Windows junctions? Distinguishing between types of Windows reparse points is not a POSIX or emulation function, so not of interest to Cygwin developers. I thought about it when support was added, but then realized there was no nice place to add it within the platform, without going the non-portable Windows specific utility route, as in lsattr. You could in a function or script by running lsattr -d which seems to fail on reparse points, then ls -dl which shows a Symbolic Link with a relative path, and a Junction with an absolute path, although it could just be a Symbolic Link with an absolute path. Perhaps something like the following would be useful to Windows users who want to know this stuff: https://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html >> It would be easier to help you, if you specify the purpose of your >> request. I.e. what you want to achieve with such tool. > AFAIK no. what I do is re-implement 'ln' with a wrapper because the Cygwin > behavior (Junctions) was driving me up the wall. > https://github.com/tb3088/shell-environment/blob/ccf7aa161899c2c4ebe2d9e980e674bc726a3ef3/.functions_os.CYGWIN_NT#L9 Cygwin never creates Windows Directory or Filesystem Junction reparse points, and by default it uses its own version of Unix path symlink files, preceded by a flag ("magic cookie") value, and with system attribute, to allow compatibility with FAT file system limitations, or else NFS symlinks on NFS filesystems. CYGWIN env var settings allow creation of Windows shortcuts and symbolic link reparse points instead of its default (equivalent to winsymlinks:sys), when supported by the file system and Windows release: https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-cygwinenv.html https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html#pathnames-symlinks -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada La perfection est atteinte Perfection is achieved non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter not when there is no more to add mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer but when there is no more to cut -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple