X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 809853852C72 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney AT btinternet DOT com; bimi=skipped X-SNCR-Rigid: 613A8DE8439E0224 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.98.246] X-OWM-Source-IP: 81.153.98.246 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney AT btinternet DOT com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrheeigddutdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuueftkffvkffujffvgffngfevqffopdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhnucfvuhhrnhgvhicuoehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeehkedtjeejheevheegkeduhfefiefhkeetlefhkeffvdetiefhffeuvdefgfdvueenucffohhmrghinhepshhouhhrtggvfigrrhgvrdhorhhgpdgthihgfihinhdrtghomhenucfkphepkedurdduheefrdelkedrvdegieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegludelvddrudeikedruddruddtiegnpdhinhgvthepkedurdduheefrdelkedrvdegiedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhrtghpthhtoheprggurghmseguihhnfihoohguihgvrdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtoheptgihghifihhnsegthihgfihinhdrtghomh X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Message-ID: <758f3276-0c54-3ae3-ba54-c890e0e48d2e@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:45:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.0 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923) Content-Language: en-GB To: Adam Dinwoodie , The Cygwin Mailing List References: <3b24439b-2b4e-b392-11f9-c3790b42c827 AT dronecode DOT org DOT uk> From: Jon Turney In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3570.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_SPF_HELO, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 2ALHkXb9014417 On 21/11/2022 16:23, Adam Dinwoodie wrote: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 12:46, Jon Turney wrote: >> - Add view modes "Removable" and "Unneeded" (thanks to Christian Franke) >> >> -- "Removable" shows installed packages that were selected, but can now >> be safely removed, as no installed package depends on them >> -- "Unneeded" shows packages which were automatically installed, but can >> now be safely removed, as no installed depends on them > > Thank you, everyone involved in this! I'd been lamenting cygcheck-dep > not getting updated for the new dependency declaration methods, but > noticed these new options when I ran the installer yesterday, and was > very appreciative! > >> - Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for >> install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian >> Franke) > > I am also very grateful for this, too – I'm a keyboard monkey and I > find the current package selection process somewhat tedious – but I'm > also wondering if there's a way to make it more obvious. I think a lot > of folk would benefit from this function who probably aren't reading > these announcements, including all the folk who sign up in future. I > can think of a couple of obvious options, namely adding instructions > in the grey areas above or below the chooser, or adding the shortcuts > in brackets in the package selection drop-downs, but fundamentally I'd > just like to have it suggested somewhere other than the mailing list > archives for future users. Yeah, we went around this a bit on cygwin-apps. Marking these as accelerators in the drop-down menu is apparently problematic in some way I don't recall the details of now (and is usually hidden nowadays unless you opened the menu via a keypress). >> This is not the place for setup feature requests. > > Having probably just broken that rule, can you clarify what _is_ the > place for setup feature requests? Neither > https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html nor > https://cygwin.com/lists.html seemed to suggest a better option… The intended meaning is that replies to that email are for reporting problems with that release. It's perfectly permissible to start a new email thread with a feature request for setup. Of course, the likely response is "that's an idea, but someone has to do it" :) I'll try to tweak that sentence for clarity in future. -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple