X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 89DE53842405 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1668264705; bh=jImJMVH1e16Qaq0VK8G5e4nAtaegK+YOAURCkhVs/2s=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: Reply-To:From; b=ugg0zDoCF2uUw0yFzsBF0VofcfLlklseE3tZOkCUVu2iVQJbG725D6v6O9UFUPm1b YUneBakSWi7FapSghiHJA569gRaIdIL9xwt8ppRdMqV4N2aHDc+RimN1aKpxVZrl8l YJqi2gAcvLLZd2nigbaWDxg5HUVGBAyKajmLgzGQ= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 21A903858C1F Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=cygwin.com Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 15:50:28 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: Christian Jullien Subject: Re: Is there an API to remove ALSR in Cygwin 3.4.0? 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All other DLLs as well as the Cygwin executables are still non-ASLRed. We're looking into introducing ASLR step by step. Right now the Cygwin toolchain creates non-ASLRed EXEs and DLLs by default. This is supposed to change in a while. Also, we might change the auto-rebase mechanism (basically the script running as post-install script when setup-x86_64 finishes up) to enable ASLR on DLLs. EXEs are not so important from my POV, but as soon as we tweaked the toolchain, more and more EXEs will be ASLRed automagically as well. One thing we can only use partially, because it's bound to break Cygwin's fork and exec, is High Entropy ASLR. Naturally, this would only work for executables which never fork or exec other processes. Having said that, there's no API for this yet in Cygwin. There is an API in Windows to control (among others) the ASLR setting of a process at creation time, see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/processthreadsapi/nf-processthreadsapi-updateprocthreadattribute settings called PROCESS_CREATION_MITIGATION_POLICY_BOTTOM_UP_ASLR_ALWAYS_ON PROCESS_CREATION_MITIGATION_POLICY_BOTTOM_UP_ASLR_ALWAYS_OFF and PROCESS_CREATION_MITIGATION_POLICY_HIGH_ENTROPY_ASLR_ALWAYS_ON PROCESS_CREATION_MITIGATION_POLICY_HIGH_ENTROPY_ASLR_ALWAYS_OFF However, we don't have an API for that, yet. We could add it to Cygwin at one point. I'd prefer the Linux-personality call, too, but funny enough, ADDR_NO_RANDOMIZE would be the only flag we could support. What we *do* have already is the peflags tool from the rebase package: $ peflags -d0 -e0 foo.exe This example would disable ASLR on the foo.exe executable. Maybe that's a workaround for the time being. 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