X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 398673858D39 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=systematicsw.ab.ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Ov8sdwzt c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=616eee1c a=T+ovY1NZ+FAi/xYICV7Bgg==:117 a=T+ovY1NZ+FAi/xYICV7Bgg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=uYT-Tk0qkVT609LjNaIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Subject: Re: Hanging cygwin processes in Windows Server 2019 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <764795149 DOT 682120 DOT 1633022545890 DOT ref AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <764795149 DOT 682120 DOT 1633022545890 AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <552722739 DOT 4126571 DOT 1634558495795 AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> From: Brian Inglis Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 10:11:07 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <552722739.4126571.1634558495795@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Language: en-CA X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfFZhQAvEv6GXzrFy+R2KV7WuS/VxYqZczl0eWhGn++X6F5YuYKh5FeiKv9WU+svNLVtSnG5HbZfzIoGZsl/G53YfoweVEKmhlcTQQCOUEIDvZRtYEzw1 KquKsaB88cuTQb8+bTgsZOBWOCoYbKP2Q0gFy1GmCIlAnyKr8TpRerNYMaNiLoq40iBdKde3OUX/zldzqd9MPxvU0fr6ZHoC5jobhp0lN/ya5ut6jDI3rtKI X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1165.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Cc: "chris DOT hardison AT yahoo DOT com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On 2021-10-18 06:01, chris.hardison wrote: > On Thursday, September 30, 2021, 01:26:37 PM EDT, chris.hardison wrote: >> My cygwin install looks good and things seem to work perfectly for some time (hours or days), then a cygwin process started by a windows process that is usually a child process of a windows service written in perl will hang and then most all other cygwin processes will hang or take a very long time to return. The simplest example is a call to \cygwin\bin\ps from powershell. That normally returns with sub-second response time. Once the problem occurs that call to \cygwin\bin\ps will often take several minutes to return. I've found that killing all cygwin processes will temporarily resolve the problem. >> I've read about redirecting NUL to stdin when making the call to cygwin processes from windows and that didn't seem to help. >> I've tried "set-processmitigation -name \cygwin\bin\ps.exe >> -disable ForceRelocateImages" with no real benefit. >> I've also tried "\cygwin\bin\dash -c /bin/rebaseall" on startup before the sshd service starts and that didn't seem to help. >> Any suggestions on how to prevent this problem will be greatly appreciated. > The problem seems to be that my cygwin processes that are always the child or grandchild of a windows service use a console device that is block buffered rather than character buffered. So using mintty to start those processes forces character buffered which solves the problem. I'm looking for cleaner way to force character buffered IO. Here's an example of the change: > From > chomp(@output = `/cygwin/bin/ps -W`);TO > chomp(@output = `/cygwin/bin/mintty.exe -w hide /bin/dash -c "/bin/ps -W > /tmp/${PID}.out"; sleep 1; type /cygwin/tmp/${PID}.out; del /cygwin/tmp/${PID}.out`); > Hopefully someone can suggest a simpler solution. Most Cygwin processes don't care about buffering, as they may be line or character buffered from the terminal but block buffered when used with pipe or file I/O. Try using stdbuf(1) instead of mintty to change buffering. You use it as a command prefix like nohup or time. Perl may also have ways of changing I/O buffering internally. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple