X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 3E22A3858C60 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=tlinx.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=tlinx.org Message-ID: <61485B73.1090402@tlinx.org> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 02:59:15 -0700 From: L A Walsh <cygwin AT tlinx DOT org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Henry S. Thompson" <ht AT inf DOT ed DOT ac DOT uk>, "cygwin AT cygwin DOT com" <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> Subject: Re: Can't ssh to cygwin after switching sign-in to Windows Hello PIN References: <f5bwnnla1qa DOT fsf AT ecclerig DOT inf DOT ed DOT ac DOT uk> <74a78044-5ddd-c2f0-1d1b-bdb092a8c2b2 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <f5btuil39b4 DOT fsf AT ecclerig DOT inf DOT ed DOT ac DOT uk> In-Reply-To: <f5btuil39b4.fsf@ecclerig.inf.ed.ac.uk> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports <cygwin.cygwin.com> List-Archive: <https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/> List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://cygwin.com/mailman/listinfo/cygwin>, <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=subscribe> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: "Cygwin" <cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com> On 2021/09/15 12:53, Henry S. Thompson via Cygwin wrote: > frankly, it seems like a bug, and > if Microsoft succeeds in moving more people to using PINs for login, > it will surely begin to bite others... ---- Isn't the idea of using the PIN login to get rid of the use (and the ability) to use passwords? I agree with you that it is likely to cause problems, but creating a block to using a password seems to be intentional. It's a bit like some of the problems with the 'Oauth' system where one provider (like google) provides a way to allow you to login to other sites using your google authentication, but not requiring you give the "other site" a password. When I first read about it though, it seemed like the authorization process required web access for the authorization to be exchanged, but I'm not 100% sure about that. If it required web-auth, that has its own set of problems. -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple