X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org AAD83393A436 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=systematicsw.ab.ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Ac10o1bG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=61097bda a=T+ovY1NZ+FAi/xYICV7Bgg==:117 a=T+ovY1NZ+FAi/xYICV7Bgg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=uYT-Tk0qkVT609LjNaIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <771e99c7-19c5-df67-abf2-fefde0e4d7b5 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <57515f66-8c88-5078-8726-4883f8e1e325 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <63cd211e-8a4d-bfa6-5a63-aa0621af31b4 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> From: Brian Inglis Organization: Systematic Software Subject: Re: Unable to start Cygwin64 terminal after password change Message-ID: <7cb1b594-1986-cf99-0954-8847d182d285@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 11:24:42 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-CA X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfFv/vqSYwTv7HtF70w4zHSoyJ5eK3zCpUBI4Ah1NzAzk0rMZchCPoT10tRTANO85aWv1bf9n5qWBA+gUAS9eJnywaJ5bCAe7Z52+J/AMxT7iyHYpP79K bRf5eHd1wW8Vbw9muOl8HDEuwy2/iRO6gHn7eHOlQTDN8JuGTFpFqWzuBxyyohEyYLPM760VIojU+6Ax73dc82yOb2lOF3mIB4Q= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1161.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TVD_PH_BODY_ACCOUNTS_PRE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces+archive-cygwin=delorie DOT com AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On 2021-08-03 09:50, Lavrentiev, Anton (NIH/NLM/NCBI) [C] via Cygwin wrote: >> You were "upgrading" your domain account AD data cached by cygserver. > > I restarted my PC at some point with "shutdown /r" -- I have no idea how > cygserver can preserve its caching across this. It's not a "fast restart". If Fast Startup is enabled, system data could be retained, such as domain and/or account data, depending on the system components and drivers involved; it's not well documented: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/weg/delivering-a-great-startup-and-shutdown-experience "during user-initiated shutdowns, the kernel, drivers, and services are preserved and restored, not just restarted." > The system restart did not help. It is also possible then that there could be a problem with AD domain account information propagation delays, or retention of registry information, such that cygserver was reloaded with the same outdated data it had on shutdown, if your updated account information had not yet had sufficient time to be persisted to the ADC and propagated back. You may want to check with your AD server admins about this possibility. > I'd really appreciate if you could _read_ my messages before replying. > It creates a lot of noise on the list for no reason, and it's not being > helpful either to me or others. Thank you for being considerate! Your assumption is incorrect, as I carefully reread any message before deciding if a reply could be helpful, and I would have to make any assumptions that could be spurious, recheck the thread contents while replying to avoid making any assumptions, and cross-check what I want to say with information sources. Please consider that we each have different experience that colours how we approach and address issues, which is why diverse project teams are advantageous for best and sometimes quickest responses. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple