X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 5931D3945C1B Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=cs.umass.edu Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=moss AT cs DOT umass DOT edu Subject: Re: "ls" sorts wrongly if given large number of files To: Kamran <mks68 AT hotmail DOT com>, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <DB8P191MB06363D09B9C9E54A289AAB7AB4D00 AT DB8P191MB0636 DOT EURP191 DOT PROD DOT OUTLOOK DOT COM> From: Eliot Moss <moss AT cs DOT umass DOT edu> Message-ID: <6e8117e1-3847-c3cf-a3a7-632d5eac7a23@cs.umass.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 13:45:55 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <DB8P191MB06363D09B9C9E54A289AAB7AB4D00@DB8P191MB0636.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports <cygwin.cygwin.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://cygwin.com/mailman/options/cygwin>, <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/> List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com> List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://cygwin.com/mailman/listinfo/cygwin>, <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: moss AT cs DOT umass DOT edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" <cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com> Here's a wondering ... In Linux, and I suspect Cygwin, etc., as well, there are two notions of "size". One is the amount fo storage the file consumes. The other is the position just after the last byte in the file. These can be different because of _holes_ in the middle of files. 17M for a setup.ini file sounds suspiciously large. I wonder if that file has a hole in it? Try: ls -os --block-size=1 (See https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/436314/how-to-get-the-physical-size-of-a-file-in-linux.) Regards - Eliot Moss -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple