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charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id 0B5NrLu3019435 On 12/4/2020 8:51 AM, Norton Allen wrote: > On 12/3/2020 8:11 PM, Ken Brown wrote: >> On 12/2/2020 12:30 PM, Norton Allen wrote: >>> On 11/30/2020 9:22 PM, Norton Allen wrote: >>>> Yeah, so now the example no longer blocks for me. Unfortunately these bugs >>>> are not present in my application, so I will need to keep working on this. >>>> >>> >>> After paring the main application down and back up, I finally narrowed in on >>> the condition that was causing this blocking behavior. The issue arises when >>> a client connect()s twice to the same server with non-blocking unix-domain >>> sockets before calling select(). >>> >>> There are a few pieces to this. With the client configured to connect() just >>> once, I can see that the server's select() returns as soon as the client >>> calls connect(), but then the server's accept() blocks until the client calls >>> select(). That is not proper non-blocking behavior, but it appears that the >>> implementation under Cygwin does require that client and server both be >>> communicating synchronously to accomplish the connect() operation. >>> >>> I tried running this under Ubuntu 16.04 and found that connect() succeeded >>> immediately, so no subsequent select() is required, and there does not appear >>> to be a possibility for this collision. That proves to hold true even if the >>> server is not waiting in select() to process the connect() with accept(). >>> >>> A workaround for this issue may be to keep the socket blocking until after >>> connect(). >>> >>> I have pushed the new minimal example program,  'rapid_connects' to >>> https://github.com/nthallen/cygwin_unix >>> >>> The server is run like before as: >>> >>>     $ ./rapid_connects server >>> >>> The client can be run in two different modes. To connect with just one socket: >>> >>>     $ ./rapid_connects client1 >>> >>> To connect with two: >>> >>>     $ ./rapid_connects client2 >>> >>> My immediate strategy will be to develop a workaround for my project. Having >>> spent a day inside cygwin1.dll, I can see that I have a steep learning curve >>> to make much of a contribution there. >> >> I'm traveling at the moment and unable to do any testing, but I wonder if >> you're bumping into an issue that was just discussed on the cygwin-developers >> list: >> >> https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-developers/2020-December/012015.html >> >> A different workaround is described there. >> >> If it's the same issue, then I don't think it will happen with the new AF_UNIX >> implementation.  More in a few days. >> > It does seem related. > > A work around that is working for me is to do a blocking connect() and switch to > non-blocking when that completes. In my application, the connect() generally > occurs once at the beginning of a run, so blocking for a few milliseconds does > not impact responsiveness. For the record, I can confirm that (a) the problem occurs with the current AF_UNIX implementation and (b) it does not occur with the new implementation (on the topic/af_unix branch). With both client1 and client2, I see "connect() apparently succeeded immediately" using the new implementation. The new implementation is not yet ready for prime time, but with any luck it might be ready within a few months. Ken -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple