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Subject: Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem
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On 11/24/20 9:32 AM, sten DOT kristian DOT ivarsson AT gmail DOT com wrote:
>>
>> That's not what Cygwin is for, you ignore everything while convenientl=
y
>> claiming to be looking for "insightful thoughts". You still haven't
>> answered where is it in the POSIX standard requires backslashes to be =
used
>> as separator or how are you going to make other *nix platforms accept =
such
>> a change?
>=20
> Did I get a question about where I think that POSIX requires backslashe=
s or did I make such claim ? If one of them, I have missed that question =
and I have certainly not made any such claim
>=20
> All I'm saying is that I'd like std::filesystem in Cygwin to work prope=
rly and I still cannot see why that cannot happen ?
>=20
> What would the drawbacks be if std::filesystem worked more transparent =
(i.e. correct) and made Cygwin more useful ? I don't think the community =
would shrink !
>=20

There's that proverbial wider audience nonsense. "Sure is nice if Cygwin =

emulates NTVDM too, I don't the community would shrink!"

You wanted to make std::filesystem accept backslashes as separators,=20
this is NOT POSIX compliant, it is contrary to the goal of Cygwin.=20
std::filesystem POSIX mode is common to all POSIX platforms where=20
backslashes are NOT directory separators. How do you make them accept=20
your demands? How are you going to force POSIX platforms allow Windows=20
specific code? Make it try to enter subdirectories every time=20
std::filesystem is called?

You refuse to understand that Cygwin is NOT Windows, it is a POSIX=20
platform. Using Cygwin means complying with POSIX expectations and=20
standards.

I don't see how this conversation can continue if you still refuse to=20
see Cygwin as something separate from Windows. Besides, you have already =

answered your question by ruling out MinGW, so Microsoft Visual Studio=20
it is.

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