X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 5EE6A3858D37 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian DOT inglis AT systematicsw DOT ab DOT ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=NYRYa0P4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=5f9ee7ae a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=aOIQUZmZLsIYzoo0jcsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Subject: Re: Cygwin-64 on W10-64 : the only game in town? To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20201101090012 DOT GA3058 AT dimstar DOT local DOT net> From: Brian Inglis Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 09:51:56 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-CA X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfL8MwFH6/BprIlR21pHQ9yPLt/k9zTFZi174qaazaEhkW5cTUeoXeMa6a9vJLVmfVfIq7MZWbnp0PFNxmh0oT1RDcuMP0aIUMn+ll1isat2PLStslaN7 IgbQP75OU21F1pgjKmTH/f6MhyZ3k6FMNkUeUbRn9TDj2mIKnaDr3Hon+NaNCMObxojREPmvXaUgfW0jn5LKwmcnt1BESLpO5xk= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On 2020-11-01 08:20, Stephen John Smoogen via Cygwin wrote: > On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 04:02, Duncan Roe wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 08:49:23AM +0000, Fergus Daly wrote: >>> With W7 no longer supported, W10-32 supported but no longer provided on >>> new machines (Microsoft states that, "Beginning with Windows 10, version >>> 2004, all new Windows 10 systems will be required to use 64-bit builds >>> and Microsoft will no longer release 32-bit builds for OEM distribution >>> .. the weaker version of Windows 10 has several limitations, like >>> capping out at 3.2GB of RAM and less stringent security measures") and >>> the functionality of Cygwin-32 significantly downplayed on Cygwin's own >>> Home page, that really does leave Cygwin-64 on W10-64 on 64-bit hardware >>> as the sole recommended platform. Yes? Cygwin64 is the recommended release, there are no recommended platforms, although there are minimum requirements for the code to run, and to build the code: if you can run it under ReactOS on an old Pentium, good on you! ;^> >> No, I run Cygwin64 on Win 7. There is an outstanding W7 update, it appeared >> a few weeks ago, but I'm not taking it. > The question is nuanced around "what is the recommended platform". Now as > individuals we can recommend anything we want if it works for us.. but we > also aren't expecting to answer all of Fergus's questions when he tries to > get Cygwin working on his system. I think in the end, for the project, the > recommendation would be whatever Corinna recommends as she is the primary > author of the code these days and the one who would be fixing problems > found. That has been determined in the past by the need in a new Wdindows release, version, or edition, to use a new API, that may not be avoided or skipped for the oldest versions in a backward-compatible way, as happened when support for new versions had to be added, so XP support had to be dropped. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple