X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org A8D963857C40 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian DOT inglis AT systematicsw DOT ab DOT ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Z5JSoFdA c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=5f662d6b a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=jChkm-x5hCMFubTIiR0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 Subject: Re: Windows 2019 support? To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <192da091-f4c8-b904-a055-1060553345f4 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <523476b2-98a6-7854-7a5a-b229e2fb36d6 AT towo DOT net> From: Brian Inglis Autocrypt: addr=Brian DOT Inglis AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXopx8xYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAnCK0qv/xwUCCZQoA9BHRYpstERrspfT0NkUWQVuoePa0 LkJyaWFuIEluZ2xpcyA8QnJpYW4uSW5nbGlzQFN5c3RlbWF0aWNTdy5hYi5jYT6IlgQTFggA PhYhBMM5/lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsDBQkJZgGABQsJCAcCBhUKCQgLAgQW AgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEB62lxu92I8Y0ioBAI8xrggNxziAVmr+Xm6nnyjoujMqWcq3oEhlYGAO WacZAQDFtdDx2koSVSoOmfaOyRTbIWSf9/Cjai29060fsmdsDLg4BF6KcfMSCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0Awv8kHI2PaEgViDqzbnoe8B9KMHoBZLS92HdC7ZPh8HQMBCAeIfgQYFggAJhYhBMM5 /lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEB62lxu92I8YZwUBAJw/74rF IyaSsGI7ewCdCy88Lce/kdwX7zGwid+f8NZ3AQC/ezTFFi5obXnyMxZJN464nPXiggtT9gN5 RSyTY8X+AQ== Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: <1e8cd4a1-7c19-dd0b-dde5-c49e08ff7d6c@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:10:18 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <523476b2-98a6-7854-7a5a-b229e2fb36d6@towo.net> Content-Language: en-CA X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfN15Sj1puMQDgX31Y3NJcw0kuFAOHC1/wEW3HJDYVlEY7ebK+UM34ZJwQa/k53mIFqQ/TLIiRf5XVd/0yVu025GTDpR6kw1hhzbD6PDjhGBxaMQUIoFE EBKp1ihHFKUI8QPNqDc7RX3hSGRZV+8JglXPiEOc+gGpcPXhIp8cERmmaAhnuvCR627AMz7f6cjKFxPFEL4T5InD5Fg3D1acMAw= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 08JGAnDg018972 On 2020-09-19 01:37, Thomas Wolff wrote: > > Am 19.09.2020 um 05:32 schrieb Brian Inglis: >> On 2020-09-17 09:52, Bill Stewart wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:58 AM Chris Bovitz wrote: >>> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows. >>>> State [sic] January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 >>>> and all later versions of Windows up to Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016. >>>> >>>> To me, this implies that Windows Server 2019 is supported, but is that >>>> true?  If so, could the FAQ be updated to show that?  Thanks. >>>> >>> Windows Server 2019 is just the server version of Windows 10 1809. In my >>> testing it works without any issues. >>> >>> My recommendation is for the FAQ to state: >>> >>> "Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows. >>> Since January 2016 this includes Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, and >>> all later versions." >> Wanted to enumerate Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 progression to be clear, exclude S >> mode, add Cygwin32 on ARM, specify 64 bit only AMD/Intel, and remove any dates >> to avoid confusion in future, so patched to read: >> >> "1.2. What versions of Windows are supported? >> >> Cygwin can be expected to run on all modern, released versions of Windows, from >> Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, Windows Server 2008 and all later versions of >> Windows, except Windows S mode due to its limitations. The 32 bit version of >> Cygwin also runs in the WOW64 32 bit environment on released 64 bit versions of >> Windows including ARM PCs, the 64 bit version of course only on 64 bit AMD/Intel >> compatible PCs." > You'd mention WOW64 but not Windows 32 bit. Is that on purpose? It might suggest > to someone that cygwin does not run on a 32 bit processor but it does. That wording was in Corinna's update: https://cygwin.com/git/?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=blobdiff;f=winsup/doc/faq-what.xml;h=056cf9132fc42da2e9c68c5a27b291a9f78eeb21;hp=beae035c3ca74eb4eeb859f4f5b06282b096a3f8;hb=db9a8c9983066cfd5ebc7b50c47c118143c55a10;hpb=0f5a7b350ff74b5e7649bce03bc212d3a121acea and took it as obvious that the 32 bit version (only one available at that time) was built for and runs under 32 bit Windows, but "also runs" in those other environments. When prompted by comments we are trying to patch docs to clarify (and update) the info, with minimal changes necessary. [No idea even what we ran at home after W98SE before W7, maybe XP SP3?] -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in IEC units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.] -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple