X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 03C2A3861967 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1595026333; bh=A0o7tFNfcNPTV0ZerM94aC34hMQajHtJ2amSDBZqIZ4=; h=Subject:To:References:Date:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To: From; b=B3TBOI6XjBazCTJStLE+c0BsjhciwLd+mEeq9MUBP5q8aDe8Hx6tTwcSt5cw/QGXG +68EVKksSCp4OsIUXk/+C8OIkMsi4tpvVBfUxJV2d2xVMaSEYFtzXn5pnU64lh4Wzm 4rxAW2AAG3bSw8LHzyxSMz+KiGodM6BbDdzFX9+k= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org F01B23857004 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=Pd6BeRpd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=rov2TMmdNa1L32Ajm2rx/g==:117 a=rov2TMmdNa1L32Ajm2rx/g==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=loFcDopfAy4A:10 a=w_pzkKWiAAAA:8 a=wwUMRv7GQw5JjIqi6jEA:9 a=sH-MMwU51UEACbbQ:21 a=n-ebmLa85bEYAxtc:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=buB1NfXUTBUA:10 a=IfQ-iFkkCvMA:10 a=sRI3_1zDfAgwuvI8zelB:22 X-SECURESERVER-ACCT: bob AT bnlmcgowan DOT net Subject: Re: Looking for explanation To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <1dc80f24-face-8794-848c-e2f062746e79 AT bellsouth DOT net> Message-ID: <28bad3eb-a354-b9f3-9dfb-ba135cb8d6eb@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:52:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1dc80f24-face-8794-848c-e2f062746e79@bellsouth.net> Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfE528aNIj3Lz+A63teYXdfGRb7EykI6WpG4frcMWLXRS9KN8y1I94LydGSYeGdQILYMFz1b5/0SJQLHmnaYPVI5+rVkblp/FPGQ0/PLi6Kv4qcgejbdt nM8MeYho/8W9bLCKRey/XHK+iJWt00NgxEm/kzPokt08WBkb2ALDhKQq X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, BODY_8BITS, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM, KAM_DMARC_NONE, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Bob McGowan via Cygwin Reply-To: Bob McGowan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by delorie.com id 06HMqbAa016379 On 7/17/20 3:33 PM, Robert McBroom wrote: > On 7/17/20 12:27 PM, Eliot Moss wrote: >> On 7/17/2020 12:16 PM, Robert McBroom wrote: >> > Directory listing shows a number of new features that I don't >> remember being introduced.?? I see >> > s,t,+ etc. other than the expected wxr. Where would I look for an >> explanation? >> >> Dear Robert: >> >> s and t are usual from Posix and Cygwin tries to come as close to >> Posix as it can under Windows.?? s is for setuid/setgid and t is the >> "sticky" bit.?? The + indicates that there >> are more refined access modes present. >> >> You might want to read up on ls, chmod, getfacl, etc. >> >> What _can_ get funky and confusing is the mapping from Windows ACLs to >> what Cygwin >> reports and Cygwin's manipulation of ACLs.?? There is online Cygwin >> documentation about that as well. >> >> None of this is new.?? Maybe something changed the file permissions, >> and now they show up this way for you??? Not sure what your real >> question is ... >> > UNIX use predates posix. Don't see any of these designations on Fedora > even on ntfs file systems. Haven't dived into them because my objective > is to run scientific calculations, but curiosity got the better of me. > > -- > Problem reports:      https://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ:                  https://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation:        https://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info:     https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Actually, the 's' and 't' designators predate POSIX. I have an old Bell Laboratories "UNIX programmer's manual", copyright 1983, 1979 (for UNIX 7th Edition), and it mentions both the 's' and 't' in the 'ls' man page. Bob -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple