X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 0232C39960D9 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=jon DOT turney AT dronecode DOT org DOT uk Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney AT btinternet DOT com X-Originating-IP: [31.51.205.121] X-OWM-Source-IP: 31.51.205.121 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney AT btinternet DOT com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrudekjedgudehjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemuceutffkvffkuffjvffgnffgvefqofdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepuffvfhfhkffffgggjggtgfesthejredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheplfhonhcuvfhurhhnvgihuceojhhonhdrthhurhhnvgihsegurhhonhgvtghouggvrdhorhhgrdhukheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudffffehffdtudeguefgvedtvdekudekieeivdehjeeffefhvdeuvefftdfhheeinecuffhomhgrihhnpehsohhurhgtvgifrghrvgdrohhrghdptgihghifihhnrdgtohhmnecukfhppeefuddrhedurddvtdehrdduvddunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheplgduledvrdduieekrddurdduudejngdpihhnvghtpeefuddrhedurddvtdehrdduvddupdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepoehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkqecuuefqffgjpeekuefkvffokffogfdprhgtphhtthhopeeouehrihgrnhdrkfhnghhlihhssefuhihsthgvmhgrthhitgfufidrrggsrdgtrgeqpdhrtghpthhtohepoegthihgfihinhestgihghifihhnrdgtohhmqe X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Subject: Re: Apparent bug in either (1) Cygwin default Package-list or (2) Package "bzr" dependency-list To: The Cygwin Mailing List References: <45a8baf1-f636-7c03-ec1f-7c72ee73c56d AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> From: Jon Turney Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:34:14 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, FORGED_SPF_HELO, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On 21/06/2020 17:15, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2020-06-20 08:41, Jon Turney wrote: >> On 19/06/2020 07:55, Brian Inglis wrote: >> This analysis is not complete or correct because it doesn't take 'obsoletes:' >> into account: >> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=cygwin-apps/calm.git;a=commitdiff;h=d75abceedb46749982669236c5c102796a1fbfb1;hp=f92ad1d5c292ed54e7a62f5c52280efab8267f37 >> It does seem that things aren't working as intended, though. > > So does that obsoletes: mean something different than category: _obsoletes, > which I view as a (Debian-like) virtual package declaration? There's no need to guess, when the source code is available to inspect. All the '_obsolete' category (note no 's') does is cause packages to get hidden by the 'Hide obsolete packages' filter in setup (which is on by default). So yes, these are completely different things. > Are obsoletes and pre-depends documented anywhere else (and any other new > keywords)? https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.ini.html -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple