X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org 8AA0E396E848
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com;
	s=default; t=1590526890;
	bh=0PAXjZPIqIHgpOTaUeb58srGvF50cFfNyp5Kuv8PWys=;
	h=References:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:
	 List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:
	 From;
	b=SajuLzek7acO9B8Auf05L2aELrw2VnYpUYUAZR9eyuTd4yQ4a9eqTQ7enyRdmdkl9
	 jZi2euVzFiK6fSTzz90pfN2Pkotn5PXgTXkLuLgb7aMMi07V55A9OMuYNwgmHDDAzv
	 JQu0f/LsotrNy+2uh2Jwel0YCaomstPWIAVE/xDo=
X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 4A448396E415
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
 d=1e100.net; s=20161025;
 h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date
 :message-id:subject:to;
 bh=/OQ8xhOp88uygoMmE9ujG4LHH1spTc2+cAWSJLdhBIs=;
 b=QaTcEqp+C727kCziAmC7JHCR0J1uUI5LGCGdMzO+VCnt2vSxi2T4OEGha9BTNPYiCJ
 Bjl+TeSEhP0M2enZhGJBQ5mBb+v40tPjIXOkmWbCmbQ7pn9hi5sjUsyXkGE0S6aJQEjL
 +Abno88ygiPVwQJWMA59TKFq5zJdYe4krQMEjx/EkWOj6GsCjpvO1oQRqJJGk95zedVc
 v3A8ubbmnDX65dU3lZLY8q98JjNkN7I+HLIzfURKh1igHIelrgu494QWsjgRXKy4KoxG
 wdRFmsiAi0U5FfUOYdoco22/DkqMxwd2kICSATaakMVmGaWi7jE/C1we4UyWdmsrybIs
 7hqA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530uRnP/Wnojt441iLsLRw1avvq4Q7p8juBfQfK3HsPJdcahRzVV
 rF8mGGMNScwawc+13BXpAoYeSwB5EoKKx5g3pgFd6+yh4uQ=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxfiFc2W9wyJz3bz7P3Mf8UIdI+vN9aczym3Yw2pQ90phzxCMTPwNo39ERqBpGFIAAes3NHLthOU+gPB5/3Puo=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:2008:: with SMTP id
 p8mr2478399vsr.183.1590526885302; 
 Tue, 26 May 2020 14:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <announce DOT 20daae52-65b7-f665-699d-37fe9c19bc5e AT towo DOT net>
 <CAHdnY6P6Rc-o2K00koqMgBHLy6A6EKLTWwmbGY4VB9gzczB-Gw AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
 <0466e890-2d9b-4407-de5f-2786b7f33c88 AT towo DOT net>
 <CAMVJNJv6zW9Ux7Jhu8aBegFpbUhJZreyta9y6S38U4PqBYADwg AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
 <aa13917d-5ef1-5415-7ee8-63d986ece0ba AT towo DOT net>
 <CAMVJNJuDbQ=Y5qCy=C8rUSaqnA+MXszrJqbAWdyM5YFfAK7Wdw AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
 <629488e8-4921-9ea9-7783-3fa77c8de8e3 AT towo DOT net>
 <CAHvU03X=rHkZPE1rEmO1HAF4WKmw=s+zC+f1RNgNVu5CzcPaow AT mail DOT gmail DOT com>
 <4ea077c6-c7dc-699f-dc0e-ee8bee421819 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca>
In-Reply-To: <4ea077c6-c7dc-699f-dc0e-ee8bee421819@SystematicSw.ab.ca>
Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 23:00:59 +0200
Message-ID: <CAHvU03VGfRfGGm4TUiF0b2A0O6WDik1CeuMex=vKTstHWFXDKA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: mintty 3.1.6
To: cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,
 DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,
 KAM_NUMSUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,
 TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on
 server2.sourceware.org
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29
X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports <cygwin.cygwin.com>
List-Archive: <https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/>
List-Post: <mailto:cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
List-Help: <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://cygwin.com/mailman/listinfo/cygwin>,
 <mailto:cygwin-request AT cygwin DOT com?subject=subscribe>
From: Maarten Hoes via Cygwin <cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
Reply-To: Maarten Hoes <hoes DOT maarten AT gmail DOT com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: "Cygwin" <cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com>

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:43 PM Brian Inglis

> On 2020-05-26 13:16, Maarten Hoes via Cygwin wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:36 PM Thomas Wolff wrote:
> >> and please remember not to "top-post" if you respond there]
> > [not aimed at you specifically, but ]
> > Owwwh, for the love of ***, can 'we' be at least a little more lenient
> > about this? I fully realize that people have their clear preferences
> here,
> > but [like the 'indent by spaces or tabs' discussion]:
> > The eighties called, and they want they're discussion back.
>
> [Please trim email addresses from bodies so they do not appear in
> archives!]
>
> Outlook TOFU email posting style is manageable for a one-on-one personal
> email
> thread, but it's a mess when you have posters providing minimal
> information in
> each response to requests for more info, from multiple volunteer
> respondents who
> would like to understand enough to help, or multiple subthreads with
> followups
> in different directions.
>
> Some maintainers are extremely busy with limited time to either respond
> here, or
> upgrade or diagnose and fix problems with packages, so just won't respond
> to
> TOFU, posters who provide insufficient information, or think there is a
> company
> or employees providing Cygwin products and support, rather than all being
> volunteers, and who expect or demand immediate "mystical" support in
> response to
> a message like "something broke and we think it might be Cygwin".
>
> Others here will try to pry enough information from posters to point them
> in a
> useful direction, or provide enough comprehensible information in a format
> that
> busy maintainers can quickly read and address an issue with a package.
>
>
Hi,

(I honestly did not mean to hijack this thread, but unintentionally seem to
have done so anyway, sorry for that).

Although I fully understand all of these points (like but not limited to
[unrealistically] expecting there to be fully paid support personal
responding to posts like 'cygwin does not wrk! please fix asap!)'

My only remark was about; does it really matter if:

top posters do :
this is my reaction
> this was the original post

or:
> this was the original post
this is my reaction


That's all folks.


- Maarten
--
Problem reports:      https://cygwin.com/problems.html
FAQ:                  https://cygwin.com/faq/
Documentation:        https://cygwin.com/docs.html
Unsubscribe info:     https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple