X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org D7ED8389200A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1590425244; bh=Py7qXhSAkSL1pC/td0591nqhrFk08AXhNcOQfzL+nuk=; h=To:Subject:Date:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post: List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To:From; b=vNJhYhpsfYupn+SUlapY6LCfxFrdbb8qcvq5XMIlawLUv3zkX4lrb1xYg7Ae/CQv0 KjqG9dUdwp+LFp3CXGnMEa1pe3XOXkFGdazxuOFam3LTFTkK5sb9WzFtxTtSwB5QLG ILZwDYcyxJDdV0YYLS6UxhD3iqgsX16gk320dp5E= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 2DFDA388A824 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=mwjPstlptgLsThPVgBLOwC0TNLLv+TyoKuE7wTKsxL8auhNO4Yf9CAs3eZM2+KunESUSq0EX+bgAwc4+reX39kUzR4xdK0xcS1HCKKH2Z1fKDcHKZxkm882lJrQdUX4jOe2oY3gywTwwYdRdzSgM5qFxZVoRfk7xpmQokp+Z6ItL8V0sEbKQd3Po/ln3XmOhD4bPnxRrCHQEDkGM2tR+JFLfLyIiA30drf9/FtY9SPD2qOgpnmvnaBR0XoOlyaMhvAWXR3lzAAdqdDAhso+lNfTm+OjNEg/l2pRKh5S1+sf/iN89xZdS54GdJeLLEOtvGtZOKAP7PTt2JqyXCq9jwg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=SQIrTmfTZwGBppYOU1QVnj9U06f4FGFnRGFwNqej4+k=; b=XSzVnWITIimjJC4fhr3Ohwot0oSm/dLPih9AQ3XqqpmDNl/TTT19f770qsrl29mcvEtxzjotA8UqBLqBD95G6TAsuP6so825CB+IgLvdiX3+kw/txxN8tiFHVVUZFBjRIuko7JwYQsmaUGxOh0U2QSiETcJuczsCoIM02PwxMKKNLVCHCppAhxawI0z+CjIYsH0jhFi7tLar5YeS1CLkNkcsaG77TJE4SoXj5dr6uWjvQLfN501OXArjHPtFHiq+tjrtmdgfQCVZX8tUTX/qqSn7hfv8hiT6NQpnNjYAwJiVu3KfNpMfw42PhMEPLl2kW+3ax7O6lmH11rtXNdr5sg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=none; dmarc=none; dkim=none; arc=none To: "'cygwin AT cygwin DOT com'" Subject: Re: Current setup timestamp 1590343308 Thread-Topic: Re: Current setup timestamp 1590343308 Thread-Index: AdYys9UFxPgPF0ICSw2Vo7c/1+kz4w== Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 16:47:18 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:2F2FC3AA0F733EAFD929A2FC2EEF19568EA9FFE7C65B2D66B9328707D05875D6; UpperCasedChecksum:8940EC299635E25E9BCB884E4B53D30081DE146974CDF6CEA001A92A153C2C8D; SizeAsReceived:6680; Count:42 x-tmn: [EOpsb5dK2syAuhf1soyofL9Omh89nNz0] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-incomingheadercount: 42 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 378b5fff-e45f-43cb-6914-08d800cb49a1 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DB3EUR04HT055: x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: Np6sv/NLX8YGgll+5eYAEfiWpv1Ad2EegS1tcoUZMUXu0N6CyAeL1cUFOus7ia0hEBzfKTzhNBxOZ4Zxm4rjpX+0a3xbyg1oV9HEnGTfi33XZra8CRq7xXwviImdibbBxdn/hVtc8Ql6SLrNw973rQp0XbhzMA4wkrCkxmjjQOpUxAY5SFXeSPNwxT9kniQGoYYnKp4ebiJklHl9WIwc/Q== x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:0; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:AM6PR03MB5282.eurprd03.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFTY:; SFS:; DIR:OUT; SFP:1901; x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: ReqRCyscV42vSmCngDpPlb4nWVUgbn/fCaxn7GcNpsGorKYqvwtZBboDEBU81gqz3bxnzOoekWCh7/mUueLArS5+9fZe95UYpni4d+m/SDJr22ew2to8zYQDHs6xijP3hswCqwEfMQ+//zIVVittMg== x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 378b5fff-e45f-43cb-6914-08d800cb49a1 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 May 2020 16:47:18.5491 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB3EUR04HT055 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT, FREEMAIL_FROM, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Fergus Daly via Cygwin Reply-To: Fergus Daly Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "Cygwin" >> It looks to me that /etc/setup/timestamp is updated by the last successful setup >> (upgrade?) run, and contains a copy of the selected mirror's setup.ini >> setup_timestamp field as of the last successful setup (upgrade?) run, a few >> hours earlier than the last successful setup (upgrade?) run. Thank you for this. I can't really think of anything to say other than repeat my observation, today, of altered practice. Since as long as I can remember (and I mean - a matter of years) a successful upgrade of Cygwin32 (implementing the current version of setup-x86.exe currently 2.904 and pulling in the latest version of setup.ini found at {source}/Cygwin/x86/) has concluded with (i) a glitch-free accounting in /var/log/setup.log(.full), together with (ii) a revision of the file /etc/setup/timestamp which reflects the timestamp line in the aforementioned setup.ini file. (And other things too, quite apart from any updates to the Cygwin provision - e.g. an updated /etc/setup/installed.db file.) What I have observed, twice now (earlier today using setup.ini incorporating timestamp 1590343308 and now using the latest setup.ini incorporating timestamp 1590407755) is that event (ii) is failing: the file /etc/setup/timestamp is not updated - and if it isn't there at all, it is not created. Maybe this does not matter. The file is not referred to during any upgrade session (or not obviously - I think the contents of /etc/setup/installed.db are what dictate any necessary upgrades to an individual user's Cygwin provision) but it has been, for me at least, a useful rapid check of whether "what I've got" matches "what is now available". All I was trying to do was draw attention to (what I perceive to be) suddenly altered practice, with no change to the setup executable that might have explained it or caused it. So (a) is it a real change? (easily confirmed, or not, by anybody with /etc/setup/timestamp reporting < 1590407755 then running an upgrade, and seeing what happens to /etc/setup/timestamp); and (b) if so, is it intended? or is it a trivial glitch introduced goodness-knows-how that can be corrected; and (c) if intended, to provide what improvement? because it seems to me a bad move. 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