X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org AE9DE3890413 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1589216045; bh=OM3wpr5XvkfGSZ2/BY6aPXHdxAyJN2QVnV4gEvQC2oU=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From; b=h+YIXP09OmPOQvQBDvodztYw69TxAOmXrcg/6j0328u3dPkoEsA35eo0Cc8xCsdY7 d6xC7xs/AJpIqh0UCCJ60Rku4jYrFMPc8hxY0tbCvZYJ533JJmRPzJUv2DXrGYnmFE xHvqGhFFxg+to5w6rRKlV9OZ7nJrkzjVok5sCVGI= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 5C811383F862 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=yselkowitz AT cygwin DOT com X-MC-Unique: rwp91i7xM2Ks_Vh_ix00pQ-1 Message-ID: <00b7faf1141248605e8498c1d1a57e0b783b783e.camel@cygwin.com> Subject: Re: Default mingw _WIN32_WINNT From: Yaakov Selkowitz To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:53:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8d3d6f8a857fa0c2dbf604a2fbc3b8d9@plebeian.com> References: <7101b829ec197e48e3aaf373625d950e95e29df4 DOT camel AT cygwin DOT com> <20200505085436 DOT GC3947 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <5dfce652-c039-64af-e839-2bda021f7437 AT emrich-ebersheim DOT de> <8d3d6f8a857fa0c2dbf604a2fbc3b8d9 AT plebeian DOT com> User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.4 (3.34.4-1.fc31) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: cygwin.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NEUTRAL, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: cygwin-bounces AT cygwin DOT com Sender: "Cygwin" On Mon, 2020-05-11 at 10:55 -0400, Chris Wagner wrote: > On 2020-05-05 5:05 am, Rainer Emrich wrote: > > Am 05.05.2020 um 10:54 schrieb Corinna Vinschen: > > > Therefore it might be a good idea to bump the default for these > > > Cygwin-related headers to at least 0x0600. > > > > > > Setting them to 0x0602 sounds like a good idea, but as long as we didn't > > > drop Vista or W7 support it might be premature. > > > > > > Btw., checking Cygwin sources for Vista and W7-specific code, it turned > > > out that actually very few lines of code handle Vista or W7-specific > > > workarounds. The advantage of removing the code is pretty minor, so I > > > didn't push the changes. While it's a bad idea to keep Vista and W7 > > > running (at least attached to the internet), we can support them a while > > > longer. > > I would expect support for Windows 7 as long as the Micsrosoft ESU > > program is active. We don't work for Microsoft, so as an independent project, we'll support Windows 7 only as long as we feel is viable and valuable. As Corinna said, for now that's the case, but nobody here is guaranteeing anything beyond that. > I would just like to chime in that it would be a crying shame if Cygwin > were to ever drop support for Windows 7. There are many people, myself > one, who are dead set against Windows 10. "Ever"?!? You do realize that, ESU aside, Windows 7 is out of support and therefore should be assumed to be vulnerable? -- Yaakov -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple