X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 sourceware.org E86733887031 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cygwin.com; s=default; t=1586336044; bh=WqPASV8bNQ5O7eEBPmdBw+DlAYZ6Lh6IH9kaLNjKB2Y=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:To:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe: List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From:Reply-To: From; b=wks/PSt1ZyRMnsRA/mupouAX06GnZBSzlpXKrb+3kNmFgijEMhFa9e9zEuIWGnOoK lLPttHCwj12wjE81zMu0KNcaFm//4aWWzNEkc/xIPBfo45Wj6N69S4q6JnevHvrW3O 7ztinF1chTGbXJ5JaucOh0r9iwS0oF0jjS5f9UGE= X-Original-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 5B45B3877034 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=9X2GGVOanamxnjvytoZ0HPkBCn4YVCe3v1vOwAGsrO0=; b=te9TUMmZMSSK9Xyatwa43kSRtVmY1ec89XeJx75vpTiR4BD7GunRIfnk5o9JYvrBRQ TH0T+aWnYcVX3PYB5ck08axKuIAG69UIWV+EQS/vVOAageZQOdvYcPODYdBuJNoKsGLZ mz6+8x3fV64WJJlBo5YKiG4FMDmoJKMkRgnvoH2cSV0IEeSJnpe/5usqX6/HQPgmYimJ zXfsPkZKstR1HWBxNMQHgkU757NGx8/gqtQ7Hc5y6Egzqmue//x3AtHBoOhaKAYDrpVv DfEvHkSKCiqgXOjdgFbCmERB8QkloxiE+qLsQ7XBeTKpfRLWK4LTUC7kkkjFpPkxtgX3 71nA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaSgHvPLG0NlcjUQHTFJsD39oLZaUjVt9iIoNBXKWBS5ifu4bQj FjKghx3NV4BFZSFwsoab2UN0/jOkcYZ1n9p+1+GJKmG8Op0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ+e9S2IL790LkS0L+Lkz1O0X2vdKVkHT/29v50aaeyHeq+Tq9MPOqg5Q1CrJ+Bz8z8W8vNAjqfeQIQSf/ow9g= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:9e17:: with SMTP id h23mr4456289vke.99.1586336039612; Wed, 08 Apr 2020 01:53:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200408083443 DOT GN3261 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20200408084518 DOT GP3261 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: <20200408084518.GP3261@calimero.vinschen.de> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 16:53:23 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dropping 32 bit Cygwin? (was Re: segfault on 32bit) To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin Reply-To: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "Cygwin" Hi Corinna, If I'm forced to abandon Windows, the next logical option for me is to use ReactOS, in order to use Cygwin for work. While it is usable as it is, right now it only has 32 bit, and 64 bit is still a long way to go. This is one primary reason that I believe Cygwin should keep the 32bit version. Also, as I personally experienced once, the 64bit version does not work properly and I'm not sure why. It could be the antivirus that was installed by my company. But, I can quickly continue my work after I install a 32bit version, and the issue is not there. So, having 32bit as a fallback is really helpful in that situation. Thank you. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:45 PM Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Apr 8 10:34, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > Right. This looks like a fork problem. It's 32 bit, so we have to > > expect fork errors more often. > > > > Given how much the distro has grown, and given that the number of 32 bit > > systems is constantly shrinking, we should really start to think about > > dropping 32 bit support. > > > > Most users these days use 64 bit systems. Some use 32 bit Cygwin on 64 > > bit systems, which doesn't really make sense, except, maybe, to build 32 > > bit packages. These users can easily switch to 64 bit Cygwin. > > > > The access statistics indicate that real 32 bit systems only make less > > than 2% of installed systems. It's a lot of hassle to keep 32 bit > > Cygwin running for only a minor installation base. > > > > I'm not saying that we switch off 32 bit support right now, but maybe > > 2020 should be the last year of 32 bit support. > > Oh, btw., time_t on 32 bit Cygwin is only 32 bit wide, so the end is > near: 2038-01-19 03:14:07 UTC. > > > Corinna > > -- > Corinna Vinschen > Cygwin Maintainer > -- > Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple