X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=pJ6cPSGGN0hSH76s 2W+NljYlpMcVx+2fO8tSpKBN3bVyCIH/U9JJ2BF1x5Y49kVblzNJZWxeui6+MYUl Y64jVZUU8YpLvTWCloVNXFEcp1oGkwwcPVd2SXocY0LGhzigRHHHjCmEgThfD2S6 ALlbhya55NZotBbXb9UKBBDEFLc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=MbWWOojA0sVoSL8/UAhO5t TlyJc=; b=TM4E6hUqLct9dvI4fW6BoCG0nN/OyEVXA4eRq1gTS/nzdf+ySShrud UgwTGQJA4snJvgeBLlX5oKQ2d/Lzoa8xg7+BdqzFErbqwL7UrBDrsz6X/4Ux2QWw 97Jyxb79tekXl5LRdSZYWrqgSgkshSFPU341eCcfsAQtykPWMwODk= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=evan, Evan, credentials, Brian X-HELO: smtp-out-so.shaw.ca Reply-To: Brian DOT Inglis AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca Subject: Re: cygwin sshd vs Win 10 'built-in' openSSh server To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: From: Brian Inglis Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:47:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2019-11-21 09:07, Evan Cooch wrote: > I've been using the cygwin sshd as a service under Windows (XP -> 7), for > *many* years. However, with the pending deprecatin of Win 7, and the IT guys > at my institution nagging me to upgrade to Win 10, that raises a question -- > are there relative pros/cons of sticking with cygwin sshd as a service under > Win 10 (assuming that is still possible), or enabling the openssh server that > is 'hidden' (relatively speaking) in Win 10 Pro an Enterprise (not so sure > about Win 10 Home)? > > My preference would be to stick with cygwin (since I'm familiar with it, and > can tweak things as I need), but I'm uncertain as to how well it would play > with Win 10, which might be 'happier' if the MS approved openssh approach was > used. > > Thoughts/opinions? I have a couple of Win 10 installs in virtual machines, > and will try testing both approaches at some point, but wanted to collate > some information before that point. With Cygwin you have documentation, familiarity, prompt support and fixes, and support of standard cypher suites and key sizes. What do you know about MS "hidden" ssh server and client, and interop with the systems to which you want to connect? What can you expect by way of support from your IT guys and MS? Some wiki notes are less than informative and may be worrysome: https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/wiki/SSH-remote-sessions-on-Windows "A remote session opened via password authentication has the user credentials attached to it and hence is capable of outbound authentication as the user. A remote session opened via key based authentication does not have associated user credentials and hence is not capable of outbound authentication as the user. This is by design and goes by the rules of standard Windows security." https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/wiki/ssh.exe-examples -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple