X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=gPYKBD0lItBjuG/V SAA7lYR9ieSXVFD7vnrpIwH7yg7lYc99D3XbeFWf9IlWJdZ2rklIFhRhmvwZa8U0 luHHN2OeJaNqgBY05srodqLLMC2szriwVIQ8iwcrhIzIQIsoAWi8GYH+Lwm8lMpN O/Y1aKoKYwT1th40P34HitrcEPk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=vpxnFLS6GGyN/fH7e6L7qg x7Z98=; b=h2SdvskhXb/SIDBBomW98pA9wESoKabzapAKW82WWvzbVrbfgU546+ 0F08DvtL23Nd0d58Vax/a83Ut3/aRb9ocUfkZMJBAkc3p7tmhD0AyXhGXKsyHHgn 8unAB8kExsLfbJTmtUB2jID9u3hxMdvoMdx1CEyZsxog7qs1h5Y/8= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,GIT_PATCH_2 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=linda, Win, Media, Login X-HELO: Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org Message-ID: <5D58ABB7.9000303@tlinx.org> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 18:36:55 -0700 From: L A Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Karr CC: "cygwin AT cygwin DOT com" Subject: Re: Win7 system update hosed something in Cygwin References: <5D571D62 DOT 5040104 AT tlinx DOT org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2019/08/16 18:44, David Karr wrote: > > > I would most like to understand what changed to make this suddenly > start happening. ---- You really need to read the cygwin section on nt-security. in the user manual @ https://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/ntsec.html. If you are into things appearing a certain way -- I think you will really find this invaluable. It also gives background and why things changed. As for how or why a windows update changed a behavior in cygwin -- MS doesn't released documentation in that detail. I came up with my mappings on my linux/samba box because I have a pretty simple setup. But I wanted the common well-known ID's in there so they would also make some sense: From the very generic sids: Null Authority:x:10010:S-1-0,builtin: Nobody:x:10100:S-1-0-0,builtin: World Authority:x:10101:S-1-1,builtin: Everyone:x:11100:S-1-1-0,builtin: Local Authority:x:10102:S-1-2,builtin: ... to my domain id's: Domain Administrator:x::S-1-5-21-33333-77777-33333-500,domain: Domain Admins:x::S-1-5-21-33333-77777-33333-512,domain: Domain Users:x::S-1-5-21-33333-77777-33333-513,domain: ... to local roles: Administrators:x::S-1-5-32-544,builtin: Users:x::S-1-5-32-545,builtin: Backup Operators:x::S-1-5-32-551,builtin: ... and authentication + trust labels: NTLM Authentication:x::S-1-5-64-10,builtin: Schannel Authentication:x::S-1-5-64-10,builtin: NT Service:x::S-1-5-80,builtin Untrusted Mandatory Level:x::S-1-16-0,builtin: Low Mandatory Level:x:11604096:S-1-16-4096,builtin: High Mandatory Level:x:11612288:S-1-16-12288,builtin: System Mandatory Level:x:11616384:S-1-16-16384,builtin: So in cygwin, when I display my 'id' output, I see the various groups and labels on my userid: uid=5013(Bliss\law) gid=201(Bliss\lawgroup) groups=201(Bliss\lawgroup), 1015(lawgroup), 1018(Netmon Users), 1017(pulse-access), 1016(pulse-rt), 1023(WinRMRemoteWMIUsers__), 544(Administrators), 555(Remote Desktop Users), 559(Performance Log Users), 545(Users), 11504(Interactive), 11201(Console Login), 11511(Authenticated Users), 4095(CurrentSession), 66048(LOCAL), 260(Bliss\Media), 512(Bliss\Domain Admins), 513(Bliss\Domain Users), 1053(Bliss\Trusted Local Net Users), 1156410(NTLM Athentication), 11612288(High Mandatory Level) If you look at your security blob using something like 'processhacker' (goog), you can see all those labels on your login. Setup right, you also see them in your cygwin shell, which I thought was cool (being a computer scientist). Sorry if this was too much, I can't say my setup is necessarily recommended, BUT, I wanted my Win+linux machines to be joined as 1 machine (all my docs & content is on the linux box, with progs on my Win Desktop box) joined by a 10gbit ethernet cable: > I've been running this Cygwin installation for a long time on this > laptop without any problem like this. Yeah, you get used to a well tuned setup (though mine does often have problems because of the weird things I've tried). -linda -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple