X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=T3VMXiWF/99U4FJTiLePMGcIeRsXbdm3lt9vTB3k6LBN30fzXXy+P wNpqMicLeArshgA9//fnUQD3LW+WCxVmlrjkIWR7M56mrLpplvP+dSnWpCCHsKUi l6lpypb26Qbw8hNHpbZxnD5cKqxVUMHRERi17zyEIZfWd8fVKxpI+0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=tC5BL/YTFcW4OBPFEX7BLwks0GU=; b=b0cxejFVlQebycNygQ6T9wdFsGp6 B0C5A/eyyiMgS/oZ9nxqmyw8iEMyftlMzAVG8CcKwjPCqaoO72bEgT1zyi5jMhA4 f8kiwh24RtF8XU04MWutL4vONHP2fxFEMbdUM5rj3SJSE7PH+SNdDVeGURRWJD1t DLYalj4H6EAHFtE= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-101.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN,KAM_NUMSUBJECT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=unique X-HELO: mout.kundenserver.de Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 20:08:26 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: ps -W now showing STIME Dec 31 Message-ID: <20190321190826.GV3908@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20190321145237 DOT GF2167 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ijf6z65S790CMqo8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.3 (2019-02-01) --ijf6z65S790CMqo8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 21 10:02, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2019-03-21 08:52, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Mar 21 08:07, Brian Inglis wrote: > >> With latest Cygwin ps -W is now showing STIME Dec 31 for Windows start= up > >> processes - these should be limited to actual start or uptime if possi= ble. > > It's not possible. Starttime requires ability to open process. >=20 > Everything on Cygwin updated Mar 18. > Running ps under bash from mintty launched from XDG. > Ran cygcheck on ps below, and attached strace not showing much useful. > Running under gdb, ps appears never to call GetProcessTimes on startup pr= ocesses > including my own startup scheduled tasks, so start_time is always zero, a= nd is > offset -7 to MST. > Showing below also unique startup programs, unique other programs with no= rmal > times from System32, running Cygwin processes, and installed releases FYI. > I could rebuild ps with debugging and add logging if not reproducible. Sorry, but I really can't follow. It's really simple: If the user can open a process, starttime is available, if the user can not open the process, starttime is not available. Just check the ps source. If you see another solution (no WMI, Bill is right there), feel free to providea patch. Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Cygwin Maintainer --ijf6z65S790CMqo8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEoVYPmneWZnwT6kwF9TYGna5ET6AFAlyT4SoACgkQ9TYGna5E T6AYBQ//ShwIlYj8gG9EVFFclSU/82njM0YGVWgur4G+J10Ih7h7NfXk7QM6R7Kg WDhVuxfuvqim39+IIQjiFGlviA2W2r4R0RTdVtLh2aKtBox4PSFCf82NTAuIJQ02 zZNweAUEefWdE6Awfr/Hcu+L7ieCTZYL+vbwCddlsSJODjS3jK2i8llIqRfxKP0m gjW4aIrZQoPiV16Mus6Sl92l9HhZoR5tWCN1Qq1twJDPd7Eu/tSg2U222OBWCwLt xEzKJubIzdMtsUfWPQO0xk/NWIueMXER8tMOgm9GYpz0yT45ARp+YlPye0bRW18B zUVuz9uKob6HQcbkClW1NybfbN0/WC1HMkfnTCY5K54+2AgASAAW7e09PbJfLq48 62GFRKMIaJVgTb97X4UfemimGdT9mxw5h2mKmHIX3G9m7era5nqskLikCvRbp26g rC1/xTp7CIuJlFXbsUkmUGOebjxv05E13Tm75aEbpKO1vWefy98HGsJOFryHl9Of FFo9VZJzdU46+fwGJa92MXMJaNvjhwaxLb/25z48Yxh1POAbdTjh8DTrjGGzWAGA ObybOE2COvrN0XcclVXEwF+kY5+Wq1LG2q7G3ZPjimfPOfFFUWROMh35PV6/i4Se Brv9G5Omgp4R0KKjhTQdIo7ibJKTMkyARoU4+UnBYhRuqDDzH4g= =4jK7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ijf6z65S790CMqo8--