X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=eUTg6g6mRYUrgepe whA2/XNNScAiFO15wfPJ7ZkAv6GoZtsEmC31XWJW+bQXB0Ii0u7ufvel14GSa2cm RlS1LhMbU21otMM6wrbh/AJVoIw9bKm/fkmZMqVF2uJSIIJm8etMMe5uVYKlqPLi IqMvFqyB22ocszCMrKoO4FJehV0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=naeARgTfT2DtmpewM0RL6+ VIEAk=; b=ny3c8zAhFJtUWfOcNfI520ZOwLcAmTwr/BLqETs12zAadDgmsf4j5u d0FWMc4wJ5ntSSEXwpQHkYcxj7IdxstmjWf8S1VC6aV1KMIYxR2aEX2mVJ8aB/2u LJx5qPXAxItj39WirAs1kBXtTLJvSGA5tWOJK7tyQXgPdL5tR19qo= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.1 spammy=UD:ru, terrible, H*M:yandex, H*RU:sk:forward X-HELO: forward100j.mail.yandex.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1552422902; bh=TrXc0QYGJiB6NsjMT88VIqa/dMat9K0ANqMIiPtR/R0=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:Reply-To:From:Message-ID:References:Date; b=lz0/rQc/B2JToBlpY8coQKrgwiZA/QqiX7ugIE7kCkEcc955I+/3tpPJ+1Hve4IF+ nyEt0nXDVZQZ4bctIyHIgk8c8bHrnsP+xwSutn6z//y5GTwEklJ2QTuBXFRhp5npCs w/P2wZbLQkVNaA0qwbmwbbkbfwIExMUqOY3JfzYo= Authentication-Results: mxback17g.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 23:33:40 +0300 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <1715197846.20190312233340@yandex.ru> To: Lee , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: SSL not required for setup.exe download In-Reply-To: References: <1a840c2e-55ac-0ab4-66c4-a1f6a2c4f81a AT Shaw DOT ca> <41f12842-ea43-ff63-a660-26ee3b497c63 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <1b570593-0ec7-0890-26ef-7e7468534f47 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <1406950005 DOT 20190312031618 AT yandex DOT ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Greetings, Lee! >> Which is way worse in my opinion, than any theoretical MITM attack, which >> is easily mitigated with proper validation of your downloads. > Serious question - exactly how does one do "proper validation of your > downloads"? Use PGP signature to validate the installer. Use separate channel to obtain trust records for PGP key used in signing. And not blindly trust "supposedly-secure" connections. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Tuesday, March 12, 2019 23:31:45 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple