X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=Zo9yL4b AnwtiEAWxDCsEXsxH98xrEkldDGxF6Ki9HRH7p9aKnsyPaMcDukDRbDPqbICpVGt TmyqVI2M9yXuVYYj48BzPBqACtcErzLCUzhKxeoyHgmi0/YJM4XTLPp6URTKZdtl QA1UrviH7INkpgbuv60l/pkbTBo1jAHxeXPc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; s=default; bh=nybb3p/uqYcKQ AKW74CRcC+fhYs=; b=NsrTwQjWnE/AOKP+UNaL8l5kMBGnfCW7yFs/uEhZlQ0KA 8hV2Zu9OuwooNTJbdyqIF5FsubasmLBZT+T+FLA0KCicOCYAcnIfSqRbMjT+acca MP4UDgVjVW1k0wUXEspstjRvKZ8bV1IOL35rtH+Zo3Q3EhuQ7OTrvZLeWxPt+E= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=attacks, attack X-HELO: mail-vk1-f182.google.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iMdS0YrAOsjuxKkUs4eteSlhFDkaWwJMWl+Vrq+J61U=; b=NE74Sqqxg6lZDRAGMJnQKwIAY0y0DudAN9uV5bLZWNnN+DZQqJneg2TqoA5cIHZaEy NvZOjRoOTkRkfQryT2tSr/8v6dRidiBvTlZGv1XcJWQiOEV0OQ/W/CCt9d5Etk0+qw6g gjZB3NTN8NMkAaYjxyaWK0owIIRluBtNwH2f7R7f486nEuW4eo0winzmBziYBoQaFF0X hNVC7NSJ7JqOvvKNkQOIcJd1MKXWRli8/FHAvaX4FgN7y2YHgCCfvlkllz0qo++R/71L TxIr7+M/b+nkWkeKR/ndg0FpUK0/jFdjGEXU6ptFjmr9cSZcgW9srN4vo79LMOivrRyT /yzA== MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1a840c2e-55ac-0ab4-66c4-a1f6a2c4f81a AT Shaw DOT ca> <41f12842-ea43-ff63-a660-26ee3b497c63 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <1b570593-0ec7-0890-26ef-7e7468534f47 AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> In-Reply-To: <1b570593-0ec7-0890-26ef-7e7468534f47@SystematicSw.ab.ca> From: Archie Cobbs Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:14:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SSL not required for setup.exe download To: Brian DOT Inglis AT systematicsw DOT ab DOT ca, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-IsSubscribed: yes On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:43 PM Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2019-03-11 07:43, Archie Cobbs wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:51 PM Brian Inglis wrote: > >>>>> Is there any reason not to force this redirect and close this security hole? > >> There are apparently reasons not to force this redirect as it can also cause a > >> security hole. > > That's really interesting. Can you provide more detail? > > Search for HTTP HTTPS redirection SSL stripping MitM attack I did, but I only get results relating to the "stripping" attack, which downgrades from HTTPS to HTTP. Obviously that would cause a reduction in security... But what I'm suggesting is the opposite: redirecting from HTTP to HTTPS. How could that reduce security? (sigh) I must say I'm surprised so many people think it's a good idea to leave cygwin open to trivial MITM attacks, which is the current state of affairs. This is my opinion only of course, but if cygwin wants to have any security credibility, it should simply disallow non-SSL downloads of setup.exe. Otherwise the chain of authenticity is broken forever. -AC -- Archie L. Cobbs -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple