X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:reply-to:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=Vbe+KTKDiKcO4uRv wQe7dPWoaHvfdf0zlxx+28vr5OXtTTecZSQxjPuGjAfq9pLlxCmvUhlOLenTY7Uk v555LKZ5w1Az9FNZCNptBT8VnnhN5Px0uQE8nO1REqPFKtjXpOiO93de3+uk4WGE 5urHXRhW24B1S3NUzmKCPtuXdcA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:reply-to:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=8S2BggQjbovAGLo6EmOLx1 JjbOE=; b=hfckVwRyRu76peJOM9uperI6W+55TOIX+xk7uaVDp/6LA6S7zJvJOI r3ZgfpoBWO4TOMZXaLqBx9kS1lvFWcuetVFq55rI8u4+snIzCaZBGNJP3va7IMDz FS8QpqqSWnxrwmib+c/AxHg73IJ/uEW5PLrrePWpXo3jATYiJqbM0= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=replying, Walsh, walsh, H*r:180 X-HELO: mail-qk1-f170.google.com Subject: Posting etiquette: Was: Getting error message when launching X-Window apps in Cygwin To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <1308285295 DOT 576965 DOT 1549657291745 DOT ref AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <1308285295 DOT 576965 DOT 1549657291745 AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <387708835 DOT 666318 DOT 1549693636691 AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> <744398867 DOT 20190209163623 AT yandex DOT ru> <5C5EE7D2 DOT 2010404 AT tlinx DOT org> From: Jack Reply-To: ostroffjh AT users DOT sourceforge DOT net Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 11:34:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5C5EE7D2.2010404@tlinx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2/9/19 9:46 AM, L A Walsh wrote: > If a list is a conversational list where people think everyone > reads everything, then maybe chronological might be better, but > even many forums will show you the newer messages first. The behavior/display of a list of messages does not have to be the same as the behavior within each message. > Does that help or make sense, or should I have read through the next > 700 messages to see if you found a solution to you situation. While I don't know of any forum that does threading, most email programs do, so replies to a request for help SHOULD be listed directly below it in most email programs.  (certainly true in (most of) the ones I use.) > But it could be very confusing if people always started at the > beginning of their email and read downwards. Another part of the etiquette of bottom posting lists is to trim what you quote down to what you are answering/replying to. [Normally I would use ... or "snip" but here I think I've kept enough for context.]  What "I" find really annoying is those lists where people with post a reply, without quoting ANY of the original question - so you get messages like "Click the third link on that page." with no context.  That's possibly OK if you see it displayed right under the first message, but quite meaningless otherwise.  I agree that I don't want to scroll through pages of previously read stuff to see the new content, but if it's not relevant to the "current" message, why not trim it out? You can manage long discussions by either having the entire history in one file/message, or by keeping the entire list of messages and keeping each message short and to the current point. In the first case, it may be easier to top-post new content, but then you have no reason to keep old messages, as long as nothing does get trimmed.  I think difficulties arise when mixing the two approaches, which is probably inevitable with email lists which get archived and even more so for cases like usenet, where you can either post or email. I generally consider it as "local custom."  Some lists/forums want one, some want the other.  As long as it's made clear, why not follow the requested style?  (Another way to look at is as religion, which suggests there is little point trying to change people's minds.) Jack -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple