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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:53:21 +0100
From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin AT cygwin DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] TEST: Cygwin 3.0.0-0.2
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On Jan 30 11:47, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2019-01-30 10:31, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > On Jan 30 09:11, Brian Inglis wrote:
> >> On 2019-01-30 07:03, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>> I uploaded a new Cygwin test release 3.0.0-0.2
> >>> It also changes the output of uname(2) for newly built applications.
> >>> Applications built so far (that includes uname(1) from coreutils)
> >>> will still print the old uname output.  The new format allows for lon=
ger
> >>> strings.  Compare:
> >>> Upcoming new uname content:
> >>>   sysname:  CYGWIN_NT-10.0-17763   or  CYGWIN_NT-10.0-17763-WOW64
> >>>   release:  3.0.0-335.x86_64       or  3.0.0-335.x86_64.snap
> >>>   version:  2019-01-29 19:23 UTC   Build time in UTC
> >> Re: "(*) It would really be nice not having to ask for these infos eve=
ry time."
> >> may want to append HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/U=
BR to
> >> uname -s sysname to show the patch levels of installed builds, as ther=
e appears
> >> to be substantial differences between editions and service models.
> > Thanks for the info, but what to do with this? Is there a thorough
> > description somewhere to allow deciphering what this means to us?
>=20
> UBR Update Build Revision appears to be incremented for each patch set re=
leased
> for the W10 feature set OS build, to complete a unique revision id, simil=
ar to
> Cygwin 335 above.
> Would save those of us who know to, having to also run and append the out=
put of
>=20
> $ cmd /c ver
>=20
> Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17134.523]
>=20
> and save asking those who don't know that, in case the revision makes a d=
ifference.
> Insider build feature sets bump the builds, and patch sets bump those rev=
isions;
> up to base releases with known feature sets, builds, and revisions; then =
patch
> Tuesdays bump those revisions higher; so you can tell if installs are Ins=
ider,
> base, or patched.

I'm not so sure this makes sense from a Cygwin perspective.  We're
interested in the major releases introducing changing and/or new
functionality.  The monthly updates don't do that so they have no
meaning to us.

I just wonder if we should replace the build number with the ReleaseId
(i.e. 17763 vs. 1809), but that excludes the fast lane updates from
being visible.


Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen
Cygwin Maintainer

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