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From: "E. Madison Bray" <erik DOT m DOT bray AT gmail DOT com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 14:40:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: Cygwin Statistics and curiosity
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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:23 AM R0b0t1 wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 7:49 AM, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> > Hi,
> > following a unpleasant discussion about cygwin usability
> > https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-04/msg00364.html
> > I wondered how many users cygwin have.
> >
>
> Younger people seem to prefer MSYS due to its use of pacman.
> Admittedly, it is very convenient. Otherwise Cygwin (or MSYS) has
> always been accepted (at least amongst everyone I talk to) as a
> necessity.

(with apologies for replying to such an old thread; I've been trying
to do some email catchup)

I have often wondered why apt-cyg [1] hasn't been adopted fully by
Cygwin as one of the default packages (in fact I'm not sure if there
even is an actual cygwin package for apt-cyg), aside from the fact
that it's not formally maintained as part of the cygwin ecosystem.
Maybe it should be.

Although the old setup.exe has its uses, and isn't too bad when you
use the command-line flags either, almost always whenever I make a new
cygwin install, unless I know immediately what packages I'm going to
need, I usually just install the bare minimum I need to get apt-cyg
working (usually wget, plus a few other core utilities), and then use
apt-cyg from thereon out.  In my experience it works really well, and
is just as good as having pacman or whatever.


[1] https://github.com/transcode-open/apt-cyg

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