X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=jRLdj3eNBtVj7+bzYuOdHP9cuWKhh4gHIsT4ftIzLSRr6gH5wqqxq 0KD3H6J0NgtK6ODDVSqH3W33equ/xTfLjYisyzYiYVU2Zj6bDz3gtt1uq81QJC4g dMIfkXmkZ6XG6nZ2Y6v5qJyCngz7RcmGSiRYVyAppPyNI9zKPLk2I4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=8X5uO3sqt0eFAl7Ao4tZvES4YJk=; b=vAxcjSqAed7L+3URwfEB5kgYYjDO La1KtHbW0JCgak1F1zaKO9sJIeUvydUGgyoek+hpgHDUuub9HCS8AWKL56zMBZre 7jb8zmX9THEasxYdoCyJ9b4sZchaunQsd1vrKGshFf0OZVLiL9cjjlR51ecaLrMx 3vg853xIcdPCd/w= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-100.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,GOOD_FROM_CORINNA_CYGWIN,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=logs, agent, opportunity X-HELO: mout.kundenserver.de Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 12:24:48 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Drop Vista Support? (Was: hangs in 20181129 snapshot hopefully fixed) Message-ID: <20181202112448.GV30649@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <20181201144427 DOT GR30649 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="e3HNah56eoWqGn2Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) --e3HNah56eoWqGn2Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Dec 1 14:36, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2018-12-01 07:44, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > (*) Do we still have any Vista users on this list? > > Or can we just pull the plug on Vista support? >=20 > Vista extended support ended 18 months ago; standard support 5 years > before; all browsers but Opera and Lunascape (and IE9 on Vista SP2) > dropped support for Vista and XP 6 months ago or earlier; estimates of > remaining Vista users are an order of magnitude less than XP users: >=20 > W10 ~ W7 ~45% each >> W8.1 ~ XP ~5% each > W8 ~1% > Vista ~.3-.6% or > 1/166-333 systems * setup exe download annual unique IP count? >=20 > Does anyone do regular analysis of sourceware access logs to justify > support? What do the sourceware setup exe download and/or mailing > list user agent strings tell you? Assuming the access statistics have any relevance, we get roughly this: W 10 69.8 % W 8.1 5.4 % W 8 0.7 % W 7 23.9 % Vista 0.2 % > N.B. W7/2008 extended (security) support ends in just over a year. > Start migrating those systems to VMs behind firewalls. > MS describes this as $100G opportunity (AKA user cost)! Time to move on, I guess. There's Linux, too... Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Cygwin Maintainer --e3HNah56eoWqGn2Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEoVYPmneWZnwT6kwF9TYGna5ET6AFAlwDwQAACgkQ9TYGna5E T6AImg/6AnhyApnnZa1EIp539jXvARaxIYdjpJ2GFNru4fsW+CFhohsRDbEQFne3 oTgWyIv/jVXCYGxMKJ91vbI41Uv/grdtj2vz6MrDWzZPQu+7b/iiZUzHbKHB7zN/ U+sA4SPDzEyexSe4DAurjDSlC4huCfVcHSZSz+afPFpaQZc/0Iu15AyceTcaRpOD 7dBWZvcT1z3b9GpBNK21bu5gJ9M2GPS1oGAFQHhi959/BM2KkEbKELdR+W03kFlA l7mAkZ1fVe0dU6OftmG5rF6ZY4NvkMpQDXZ/gLJC0lQPZf9MFuA5SNX1mha5xrFD QbRHnIi4qXC98Awk2qj9TgrK/3n+upgsetRS80fUywAI+dP+0tKCId6VcMlxTkqZ 1LfGjw4vh5+d2EVoPXwunHbzSPwXbg8VtPXO4rpsGCgiy4W0lohVHjaWxLUHQNuH DUtdcXIfX5SZIQtLolHfxljZ1xsLhzYCt7dsEWAzwAoLedmNWnYI2iqTXqASoCcy nvJHHf0c1G8CBFdWhH3curzy1NTYfWF9Zamk3BmJbPO/aX8EgumiuJCMSh3Cpv09 gpnrz27dr5peGl4l9vTf35St+v9Not9eJWNKkx/qpo/7IHsiZrODkL2CenyiApOg pwYDVU4nSroPldvs8bi9eJ+kfJyo6XBXTyTEVXoSOOsUvgy4xHI= =EXrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --e3HNah56eoWqGn2Q--