X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; q=dns; s=default; b=fTYzyJn s06A88O4vP/dh5nyj0/Zn9W0ezqDgQ5eEn05/gnoH8jvcEXHw0u8m+KzIumVc43F yskt6NfymAXdxb52KmMUSiqASbZEyF+vZgF7Rwk5MzucPk8czshr/DHIlsj51WEg F6sBGcxzQbYT1/TNAKB/px7cGBURgBfbbL5Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; s=default; bh=ZRktNPFsMVvtK NBr0XYrH+dgftc=; b=RX0c4XPGdNaTLqycZDLpEEUi0JDtTFcLD+MS9jWC/Kgvl P5rwksK9CTlNx/XOuIUQwKUbQwKlAAN6hFffeqHJ4pzVy6XxyK2OcG1g3bnhWVZp 5NIfYP6a/odkGMImwTLsOdVWTWaKWfBT0Xv5N2Fiq3QfcO4r/RvhbLlNDN8SYE= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=annual, logs, stone, disturbing X-HELO: mail-pf1-f175.google.com MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181201144427 DOT GR30649 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> In-Reply-To: From: Dan Kegel Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 14:09:59 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Drop Vista Support? (Was: hangs in 20181129 snapshot hopefully fixed) To: Brian DOT Inglis AT systematicsw DOT ab DOT ca, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-IsSubscribed: yes For what it's worth: Vista does not even rise above the noise at https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam and is just barely present at https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?id=platformsDesktopVersions If I were still supporting Vista on anything, I'd be thinking seriously about dropping it like a stone. - Dan On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 1:36 PM Brian Inglis wrote: > > On 2018-12-01 07:44, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > (*) Do we still have any Vista users on this list? > > Or can we just pull the plug on Vista support? > > Vista extended support ended 18 months ago; standard support 5 years before; all > browsers but Opera and Lunascape (and IE9 on Vista SP2) dropped support for > Vista and XP 6 months ago or earlier; estimates of remaining Vista users are an > order of magnitude less than XP users: > > W10 ~ W7 ~45% each >> W8.1 ~ XP ~5% each > W8 ~1% > Vista ~.3-.6% or 1/166-333 > systems * setup exe download annual unique IP count? > > Does anyone do regular analysis of sourceware access logs to justify support? > What do the sourceware setup exe download and/or mailing list user agent strings > tell you? > > N.B. W7/2008 extended (security) support ends in just over a year. > Start migrating those systems to VMs behind firewalls. > MS describes this as $100G opportunity (AKA user cost)! > > -- > Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada > > This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains > too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. > > -- > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > > -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple