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Subject: Drop Vista Support? (Was: hangs in 20181129 snapshot hopefully fixed)
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On 2018-12-01 07:44, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> (*) Do we still have any Vista users on this list?
>     Or can we just pull the plug on Vista support?

Vista extended support ended 18 months ago; standard support 5 years before; all
browsers but Opera and Lunascape (and IE9 on Vista SP2) dropped support for
Vista and XP 6 months ago or earlier; estimates of remaining Vista users are an
order of magnitude less than XP users:

W10 ~ W7 ~45% each >> W8.1 ~ XP ~5% each > W8 ~1% > Vista ~.3-.6% or 1/166-333
systems * setup exe download annual unique IP count?

Does anyone do regular analysis of sourceware access logs to justify support?
What do the sourceware setup exe download and/or mailing list user agent strings
tell you?

N.B. W7/2008 extended (security) support ends in just over a year.
     Start migrating those systems to VMs behind firewalls.
     MS describes this as $100G opportunity (AKA user cost)!

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