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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 02:03:12 +0300
From: Andrey Repin <anrdaemon AT yandex DOT ru>
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To: Thomas Wolff <towo AT towo DOT net>, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: mintty 2.9.4
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Greetings, Thomas Wolff!

>>>>> I have uploaded mintty 2.9.4 with the following changes:
>>>>> Terminal features
>>>>>      * Copy as HTML (#811).
>>>> I should agree with Achim. This feature is utterly broken.
>>>> Copied fragments are inserted as HTML TABLES(of all the things!) with no formatting whatsoever.
>>> OK, it shall be made configurable. But please describe in which ways
>>> workflows are broken and how / in which application HTML tables (HTML source?) would appear.
>> When I copy a text string, I fully expect it to remain a string. Formatted,
>> colored, but still string.
> I'd interpret this to mean that the feature is welcome but its details 
> are not?
> If you want coloured text, it needs to remain HTML format (or RTF) as 
> plain text is not coloured.

Yes.

>>> Of course plain text clipboard format is still supplied (multiple
>>> formats can be copied to the Windows clipboard at the same time,
>>> otherwise I wouldn't have enabled this by default), and the assumption
>>> was that an application pasting plain text from the Windows clipboard
>>> would still retrieve that.
>> Plain text is pasted as text, that's not an issue.
>> But pasting into a text processor is broken.
>> When I copy a text from PuTTY, it is pasted as colored/formatted, but text.
> Which means putty also copies something formatted, either HTML or RTF, 
> otherwise it wouldn't be coloured.

PuTTY uses RTF in addition to plain text, if "copy as rich text" is enabled.

>> When I copy same text from MinTTY, it is pasted as uncolored/unformatted table
>> with a single cell.
> Uncoloured? It's the purpose of this feature to copy attributes through 
> the clipboard and it works in all my tests.
> Which application pastes it without colours?

OpenOffice for one. I intend to check with MS Office, once I have access to
one.

> The table is another thing, I acknowledge this can be disturbing. The 
> purpose was an easy way to include an optional transparent image 
> background in the clipboard. I'll tweak the HTML output to do without it 
> by default, or maybe always if I can attach the image to a <div>.

I think you're stretching yourself out of intended purpose of the feature.


-- 
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 2:00:53

Sorry for my terrible english...
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