X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=TDc38qCIM9V1foL5CWMYD1WJ6YWkG45Pabrrzs2esCG +UBnuvErozBAJZlWLj9wSWtBwwWTokVC9bkCkiV4IeMf2/hbz2CwsG5U2AwhEUg0 gxTe3O7ouMdYlolbrmzyzgDPnQofhySKeVvkvdYmBrVejSz3LoBxPGi5NDPYayUs = DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=WPQPX8f3DXyYP1VvL0ctIaDwUNI=; b=baLZ0xy/wsD+8D41e YqwmiY/v9d92yznWKHf7aO/doR1RdPRgS2H1UaFgUmjiHHw6A6nFTph6KvILC2Q0 aVPovKXF3p0bvkS9nMsbJgmQRI1qljtmIuul8cFNwMJQzrpZ2aI6LOsy/8YPkSoi 9Ui6L0oawQFXvUoOeseNOxAsIc= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOREIGN_BODY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=E-Mail, EMail, magazine, wurde X-HELO: vsmx011.vodafonemail.xion.oxcs.net From: Achim Gratz To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Fork issue on W10 WOW References: <7ad0e0d4-438b-33ad-a711-e0b1996fa6f6 AT gmail DOT com> <20180709090332 DOT GC3111 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <87e94b8c-13d0-928e-957d-c32b15b8a962 AT gmail DOT com> <20180709123739 DOT GB27673 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <20180712133847 DOT GT27673 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <874lh17txr DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 19:58:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Marco Atzeri's message of "Sat, 14 Jul 2018 17:41:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhyt66o4.fsf@Rainer.invalid> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id w6EHwcJg004161 Marco Atzeri writes: > Nothing fancy, just vanilla fresh new > W10 64bit Home preinstalled on HP Notebook > German Language > Version 1709 > Build system 16299.547 Hmmm. That should update itself to 1803 almost the same second you let it anywhere near a network. Anyway, the only time I've seen similar behaviour was when some other library was occupying the address space the systems libraries should have occupied, and the they get some extremely random address assigned until the next reboot. To do this the other library must however be loaded pretty early in the boot process. If you wrote the mail on said laptop, this > Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. might be an explanation for the whole thing. AVG is well known for intercepting things already during boot and loading a bunch of their libraries early. Some of it is still done even if you switch it off completely and some changes to the registry might even survive a deinstallation. It sounds like you've already spent way more time with that problem than you thought you would, but my suggestion is to try a clean boot of a stock Windows installation. You can install one into a VHD and (multi-)boot into it without affecting your existing installation beyond the space taken up by the VHD file (german magazine c't has described both a manual way of doing that and developed a script that prepares the VHD so that it just needs to complete the installation when first booted). If that works OK without your current problems, you can then decide whether to keep a separate boot environment, trying to fix your existing install or wiping the pre-installed Windows and doing a fresh install on bare iron. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple