X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=lG8gpBl+ftg3JRNV VbzNsr5QGWAky6Q9RIXsMdPcELu6i+iE/b8uLNdop3vz6//ww7qOacoRSe+v+nQC 6aScyLhw81olQwb2ZFYj5M2nw0dTlqOmpsV67dkAYkVLXInYxCX3JaFmOCL6hCBa CWBgmKB7E/cNrlB4ZqENdahqtLY= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:reply-to:message-id:to:subject :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=mNHKSxFfXnvSTrog0QTzjd P5iDw=; b=fFeNkw/TaEzuA0hOVSOW5w5W1CABC16HJe5jQuvUnjzq+LIXQ1tbCg HrK0kisGMfI+ORCvC3e9Io/46/XwQCQNBx7SJPI4yPhtroyx1i+KLWN/ZNU+8eGZ 4nWloGlP53ogvVunZ8lxeDSDwcUJsaJwTTAVHQiNlfwHMDkmv/mMg= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,KAM_THEBAT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=UD:ru, desktop, sk:www.joe, sk:wwwjoe X-HELO: forward106p.mail.yandex.net Authentication-Results: smtp2p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:17:28 +0300 From: Andrey Repin Reply-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Message-ID: <59130091.20180622141728@yandex.ru> To: Lee , cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: UTF-8 character encoding In-Reply-To: References: <1183751257 DOT 20180621042620 AT yandex DOT ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Greetings, Lee! > On 6/20/18, Andrey Repin wrote: >> Greetings, Lee! >> >>> I'm looking at >>> https://cygwin.com/packaging-hint-files.html#pvr.hint >>> and it starts off with >>> Use UTF-8 character encoding. >> >>> How do I do that and how do I check that I actually did use UTF-8 >>> character encoding _without_ using file? >> >> https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2003/10/08/the-absolute-minimum-every-software-developer-absolutely-positively-must-know-about-unicode-and-character-sets-no-excuses/ > I think I don't know enough to ask the right question. A quick search > yesterday on byte order markers turned up > > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd374101(v=vs.85).aspx > with this bit > Note Microsoft uses UTF-16, little endian byte order. Yes, default multibyte Windows encoding is UTF-16LE. But in general, this is application specific. > So... keep it simple, set > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > and use vi or something else that comes with cygwin to create the file > and I'll have a file with UTF-8 character encoding - correct? I'm not familiar with vi, but this is true for other *NIX editors I know, they use current locale settings by default, unless something else is specified in their configuration or prompted by other cases (like byte order mark). IMO, best chance is to use an editor that explicitly supports saving texts in the desired encoding. And please no BOM for UTF-8 files. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Friday, June 22, 2018 14:13:14 Sorry for my terrible english... -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple