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From: Matt Nicholas <mattdn AT gmail DOT com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 19:01:46 -0700
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Subject: Re: xterm / Windows 10 question
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Hi Jon,

Thanks for the additional comments.

The two keyboard layouts that are installed are "ENG US" and "ENG INTL".
(These are the two I see when I toggle through them using <Windows
Key>+space.)

I just rebooted the laptop and did not observe the problem with xterm
windows that prompted my initial post.  I suppose this all makes sense
based on the fact that xterm windows use the layout that was in effect when
the X Server was started.  I.e., you can't subsequently change the behavior
of xterm by selecting a different layout using <Windows Key>+space.  (At
that point can use "setxkbmap us".)

My understanding at this point is that the only thing necessary is to make
sure the desired layout (in my case "ENG US") is selected before starting
the X Server.

--- Matt




On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Jon Turney <jon DOT turney AT dronecode DOT org DOT uk>
wrote:

> On 06/06/2018 23:33, Matt Nicholas wrote:
>
>> That was the clue I needed.  Thanks!
>>
>> Here are the relevant lines from my */var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log*:
>>
>> [494293.296] (--) Windows keyboard layout: "00020409" (00020409) "United
>> States-International", type 7
>> [494293.296] (--) Found matching XKB configuration "English
>> (USA,International)"
>> [494293.296] (--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "us_intl" Variant = "none"
>> Options = "none"
>> [494293.296] Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us_intl" Variant =
>> "none" Options = "none"
>>
>> I'm not sure why the X server starts with *Layout = "us_intl"*, because if
>> I look in *Control Panel > All Control Panel Items > Language* it says the
>> language is *English (United States)*.
>>
>
> "Display language" and "Keyboard Layout/Input method" are different
> concepts, although they seem to be somewhat combined in the settings app
> now.
>
> However, I found that if I enter the command "*setxkbmap us*" in an xterm
>> window it solves the problem (i.e., single quote and double quote
>> characters are no longer dead keys).
>>
>> I'm still not sure how best to configure it so that the X server starts
>> with "us" instead of "us_intl" automatically, but that's a minor issue in
>> any case -- entering the "setxkbmap us" command is easy enough.
>> (I can probably put the "setxkbmap us" command in ".bash_profile", if I
>> don't find a more appropriate place.)
>>
>
> I don't think this is working as intended.  If you don't have the US
> international keyboard layout active when the X server is started (which
> I'm assuming isn't the case, or you wouldn't be surprised by the deadkeys
> that layout uses), it shouldn't be selected.
>
> Perhaps you can clarify what keyboard layouts you have installed?
>
> --
> Jon Turney
> Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer
>

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