X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=OD/upr/2fnxa1VTF sG04c0WzOJhk070PuNxySnc2k8+kHHV07Z7xUnx99Lq909208BdE0OR4fFX7048I FDmb13itYG/gG8UqTMrjNp5L3ZrctgUDp0dq3bOgabYWdsjc+mUD8tIUzWiHhBW2 1W5UPenxJqrr4HYOTE0FXirTQ+8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:reply-to:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=ezCZBmSalpSTl3vZ2drAGT mxkCU=; b=o2HPP/QOntGs0tZ+Xkrdryx2ZwnwcHsa7TE6wpookLjQZ7iUd8LCuv K/eV1iJy7f3pCfsYK6kUB3rd/KF7DLDYItyHZiHE2HaxjbHVHqXjMWXfPKpHa2Xu LUcT0ryKwlivbFaT4dH6xdVRmHsSGs3E8uzceECuBk35hXqYL+exo= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,KAM_NUMSUBJECT,LIKELY_SPAM_BODY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=vfat, VFAT, crap, malice X-HELO: smtp-out-so.shaw.ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=OeS28CbY c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:117 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=sixQSKE0iUWtVPM9Ij0A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 Reply-To: Brian DOT Inglis AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca Subject: Re: sed seems to force UC filename on Mixed 8.3 filenames on FAT32 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <468c8201-f85c-d1ce-a50b-2b983a70edaf AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca> <20180304100916 DOT GH16908 AT calimero DOT vinschen DOT de> <6a66dad0-b4ae-8e5a-5092-2afcf6bdae27 AT gmail DOT com> From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: <75fabc3a-83c1-ab1d-034b-f11e2977b2d1@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 11:14:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6a66dad0-b4ae-8e5a-5092-2afcf6bdae27@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOqJpO9eJQ4jCx9nb42hP6o7gNm/tomEGUZIGBxKILIeI7sM/tfqaIdKcx1RTbwyFRuibdwWw0VvkOEz/2LkwAEa6PSMpWr0fXL5zpQYxRG62T51K7Ui h+9/ZE3q26qHzbN6ez+nzCjeXMHYIzs9hCuLHYC5rQ3auVAr602qU9g3cMZNnK7qTA+y0Xb7Na65ng== X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2018-03-04 10:05, cyg Simple wrote: > On 3/4/2018 11:14 AM, Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2018-03-04 03:09, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >>> On Mar 3 11:14, Brian Inglis wrote: >>>> On 2018-03-03 01:36, Fergus Daly wrote: >>>>>>> Run stat on original and converted files. >>>>> >>>>> OK. I get this: >>>>> >>>>> ~> stat /j/PStart.xml >>>>> File: /j/PStart.xml >>>>> Size: 7233 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 65536 regular file >>>>> Device: a6418e7fh/2789314175d Inode: 7206475022584976007 Links: 1 >>>>> Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (197609/ fergusd) Gid: (197609/ fergusd) >>>>> Access: 2018-03-03 00:00:00.000000000 +0000 >>>>> Modify: 2018-03-02 11:50:12.000000000 +0000 >>>>> Change: 2018-03-02 11:50:12.000000000 +0000 >>>>> Birth: 2018-03-02 09:26:44.060000000 +0000 >>>>> >>>>> ~> dos2unix.exe /j/PStart.xml >>>>> dos2unix: converting file /j/PStart.xml to Unix format... >>>>> >>>>> ~> stat /j/PSTART.XML >>>>> File: /j/PSTART.XML >>>>> Size: 6943 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 65536 regular file >>>>> Device: a6418e7fh/2789314175d Inode: 7206475022584976007 Links: 1 >>>>> Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: (197609/ fergusd) Gid: (197609/ fergusd) >>>>> Access: 2018-03-03 00:00:00.000000000 +0000 >>>>> Modify: 2018-03-03 08:27:16.000000000 +0000 >>>>> Change: 2018-03-03 08:27:16.000000000 +0000 >>>>> Birth: 2018-03-03 08:27:15.210000000 +0000 >>>>> >>>>> Does that help at all? >>>>> >>>>> It's not so much the behaviour on FAT32, which I could put up with as >>>>> a filesystem pehenomenon if it had always been the case: but it's just >>>>> started in the past few days. Can't think what has been updated that >>>>> would cause this change. Previously sed and dos2unix which I use >>>>> constantly (and others) did NOT change the case of the filename. >>>> >>>> Should only be possible if Std C rename was changed in newlib/Cygwin1.dll >>>> updates >>> >>> No changes there, certainly not renaming the file to all uppercase. >> >> Not suggesting any deliberate impact from newlib/Cygwin but any change could >> result in different Windows calls in the emulation layer, or the cause could be >> as in the rest of the sentence trimmed: >> >> ..."or operation on FAT32 was changed by Windows updates." > > IIRC, the original FAT only allowed uppercase file names. Maybe some > emulation switch is on as a result of such updates at the Windows level. That's FAT12/16 (floppy/HD) - FAT32, exFAT support VFAT, and case and other attributes should be retained on {Move,Replace}File{Ex,...}W, from MS docs. The question may be what holds for ...A functions: those should be wrappers calling the ...W functions, or the underlying functions. Sometimes MS add new functions or change parameters you need to use to maintain legacy behaviour after OS changes. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor "90% of everything is crap." - Sturgeon's Law Cygwin provides and supports the other 10% of Unix! ;^> -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple