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On 12/13/2017 11:40 PM, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2017-12-13 00:50, Thomas Wolff wrote:
>> Am 13.12.2017 um 06:21 schrieb Brian Inglis:
>>> On 2017-12-04 18:23, Thomas Taylor wrote:
>>> Your Windows Regional settings and your mintty/Options/Text/Language and
>>> Character Set should be set to match.
>>> The profile commands below set Cygwin locale to your Windows Regional settings
>>> and charset to UTF-8, or Unix locale to your system locale.
>>> Otherwise your system or mintty is going to be doing conversions on each
>>> character.
>> I am not aware that mintty character display and Windows regional settings would
>> interfere in any way you indicated.
>> Can you elaborate on this please?
> 
> Maybe I'm just too optimistic that software will DTRT to ensure that output is
> faithfully passed thru, or converted for the next layer of software, if it has
> different settings.
> I set all of my locales the same so characters should pass thru transparently
> and I can see output faithfully rendered, given adequate font configurations.
> 
> What happens when your system, terminal, and shell locales and charsets differ?
> Either some component/-s has/have to do conversion to provide readable output,
> which is my expectation given the requirement to specify locales and charsets,
> or you could end up with garbled output if nothing is doing any conversion.
> Does one override others to pass thru readable output, does conversion occur, or
> do you just see junk in some or all cases when locales and charsets differ?
> 
> I am ignoring here the effect on text content, input and output formatting of
> selecting languages, territories, and scripts.
> 

For my working environment I need Cygwin and Windows to be different.  I
have other requirements for en_US.UTF-8 within the Windows environment.
I use Netbeans IDE and it allows me to set the locale per project.  It
doesn't matter what the OS level states; that is just the default.

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