X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=JsrPaJDZAF3nZVt5 YaBGqhGX6tld1WgqcwCqlmhqgVUMKVpUIYhhpvWgcnTYN6L1USXu2K3DxsDPe45a pCM+Jyy1hLnyfLJunOPxKrh4sLbZSeg/Khb+DrF+7KsfiW+u+rO8TJYxw6Y5P45t +Us8TH24mNBWbcBLs2R6wO4yXLo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=lIaUr2mpP83CWK6MfqaP4d gwR+E=; b=qg0dd/I2Tui00+Zu5wqaf7zTSDVyzMyWYYRzVCSzzpvbcaoT3RUpQ9 brPoOA9EiWruVUEOHC5rbszyaPoaC23XXH18RfTJpNOHliGogu8ycAdvhfFPiJCi 6x+CP4u3hx6waewy/D95Wm1mNisO38HQSiipNu6MrgwwYZ8tUU+eo= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=reinstalled, inglis, Jrme, Hx-languages-length:1283 X-HELO: limerock02.mail.cornell.edu X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Subject: Re: setup graphical chooser : how to list orphaned packages ? To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: <2d3c5da1-5944-ef91-aa48-faed2210b772 AT cornell DOT edu> <1bc4a9a6-c543-e78b-62fe-2e7ac696a1df AT cornell DOT edu> <58894cff-9ff6-9297-9efb-d37db9e49804 AT wanadoo DOT fr> <2b33c8ad-9cf3-cff5-fc44-8a5c82709006 AT laposte DOT net> <87wp3yhma5 DOT fsf AT Rainer DOT invalid> From: Ken Brown Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:16:38 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-PMX-Cornell-Gauge: Gauge=X X-PMX-CORNELL-AUTH-RESULTS: dkim-out=none; X-IsSubscribed: yes On 10/13/2017 3:49 PM, Brian Inglis wrote: > On 2017-10-13 13:37, Achim Gratz wrote: >> Jérôme Bouat writes: >>> Are "orphans" and "obsolete" 2 different things ? >> >> Yes. An orphaned package is one that is installed on your system, but >> not available in any version from setup. An obsolete package is one >> that still exists (usually as an empty package) both in setup and on >> your system in order to provide a dependency (usually for older packages >> that still refer to the obsolete package name until they can get >> rebuilt). > > Obsolete packages are also provided in setup like "virtual" packages for > backward compatibility with old package names requiring the new package. > > I recently removed some of these old obsolete packages as I was using the > upgraded packages. > > The next time I ran setup for an upgrade to the underlying package, the obsolete > package and obsolete library package were "reinstalled", along with the upgraded > real package and library package!? This is very common. Suppose you have package A installed, which requires B. Package B gets obsoleted by C. But A still requires B until someone (usually the maintainer of A) changes this to make A require C instead. Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple