X-Recipient: archive-cygwin AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:subject:reply-to:to:references:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=kD6Djs1cc8EgfbEh ZKHhNefNHfOlY0dy6SYg8YMMhA4iMESembmvqthUz/rgnb3k4FZsZHErJ1N+dPbQ 9oA7OUOmj9kXuZla1j5IxiY/zIMZROdB93rCA1/Er0vRXqfrtXpMTBvFCCCaxzb7 7TzW/V1b/7D2TX9MXQ6FxwAbU1M= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:from:subject:reply-to:to:references:message-id :date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=oNFEIK/PvRWOId4qzKPwQ9 z+fmk=; b=MMnI0PwH3n5ref6vB7fRB/7xENfRStMM8XN1HS/piRH2Xbly/2A9Jp 8vwoFQI6Y3roNvcsUzrBoA5BFp/1yrljbpKLjs3GsE6t+A70S/3NYBWL15oBpkLm eezaMVvXJleyAILjvnAbEAnSIaABQhrTeKId+rz/Fgh3Gi/R9EIBw= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT cygwin DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT cygwin DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=sk:www.fin, shells, sk:wwwfin, UD:php X-HELO: smtp-out-no.shaw.ca X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=a+JAzQaF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:117 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Y6VNswmlAAAA:8 a=720CB18wM0986VoWUc8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=mOZDPwaY2sMA:10 a=v0PR-xc4_bf6Jk7RTykk:22 From: Brian Inglis Subject: Re: terminal program tty error problem Reply-To: Brian DOT Inglis AT SystematicSw DOT ab DOT ca To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com References: Message-ID: <8f4812b7-362b-c345-e4d6-74193a913440@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 07:55:45 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfBQFGPrw3caudWb9duOfaygdgjWuXu8zVNFH/qtuii++gTXpsOI3Odrv6qosoEAm+6LVOKqev/3sRPr8M6LfaSXPLokfSUItQBNq24gAmpUeMIzLjWqW 3KboeqzhKei0FP+Dxwoa1+FML7GxzgnW7INaGYL8K3Km6If0ImCo8Th8yVsmwijFpv4AsAeAGZIunw== X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2017-07-07 00:49, Michael Jun wrote: > On Friday, July 07, 2017 12:30 PM, Michael Jun wrote: > When I invoke system terminal programs from gnome/openbox desktop menu, > most of them including gnome-terminal produce the following message. > Warning: no access to tty (Inappropriate ioctl for device). > Thus no job control in this shell. > QTerminal and KConsole does not have this symptom. > What does cause this message and may be cured? >> Some information has been missed. >> The "no access to tty" warning message is produced when login shell is >> tcsh (csh) only. bash shell does not produce the warning message. >> For tcsh login shell case, QTerminal and KConsole do not have this "no >> access to tty" problem. But other terminal programs do have this problem. Check commands issued in your login and Xwindows startup scripts are appropriate for tcsh e.g. supported redirections, and do not depend on a tty e.g. if (-t [012]) stty... >From http://www.finkproject.org/doc/x11/trouble.php: Warning: no access to tty (Inappropriate ioctl for device). Thus no job control in this shell. Class: Mostly harmless. X11 launches an interactive shell behind the scenes to run your client startup file (.xinitrc). This was done so that you don't have to add statements to set up PATH in that file. Some shells complain that they're not connected to a real terminal, but that can be ignored since that shell instance is not used for anything that requires job control or the like. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple